In this week’s episode of The Future of Security Operations podcast, Thomas is joined by Raymond Schippers. With 15 years of experience leading detection and response teams, Raymond is a seasoned security leader with high-impact roles at Check Point and Canva under his belt. He recently became co-founder of Huntabil.IT, a Melbourne-based company providing organizations with tailored advisory services to align with their unique threat landscapes and business goals.

In this episode:

[02:27] Landing his first security internship at Siemens as a teenager

[03:18] Reflecting on some state-sponsored attacks he encountered while working IR at Check Point

[04:45] Working with government partners to attribute and dismantle APTs

[08:10] The challenges of remediating threats for anonymized customers

[09:30] What inspired Raymond’s move from Check Point to Canva

[10:35] Building Canva’s blue team during the company’s phase of hypergrowth

[12:40] Rethinking the interview process to prioritize diversity in hiring

[18:02] Proven strategies for reducing burnout and alert fatigue in IR

[21:09] How Raymond's team used automation to scale security operations at Canva

[23:16] The state of AI in security - and its most effective use cases

[28:53] What inspired Raymond to found Huntabil.IT

[31:09] Raymond’s approach to working with non-profit organizations

[39:15] The under-reported threats that could reshape the future of SecOps

[44:06] Anticipating the biggest challenges security teams will face over the next five years

[46:42] Connect with Raymond

Where to find Raymond Schippers:

• LinkedIn

• Huntabil.IT

Where to find Thomas Kinsella:

• LinkedIn

• Tines

Resources mentioned:

• Cyber Threat Alliance

• Raymond's talk on avoiding team burnout at BSides Perth

In this week’s episode of The Future of Security Operations podcast, Thomas is joined by Dane VandenBerg. Dane’s 16-year security career includes product-focused roles with vendors like Qintel and more recently, Microsoft, where he was Principal Technical Specialist supporting the development of their security copilot. He’s also spent a lot of time in fintech, serving as Vice President of Information Security at Prime Trust and, currently, Senior Director of Security Operations at Circle.

In this episode:

[02:05] How Dane went from researching women’s health and animal cloning to public relations to security

[06:25] Why security teams are still fighting the same battles they were 15 years ago

[09:24] How Dane’s vendor-side threat intel work shapes his thinking as a SecOps leader

[12:00] What’s working - and what’s not - about how companies approach threat intelligence today

[12:51] Why threat intel should be an in-house function, not just a reporting feed

[15:30] What motivated Dane to move into the finance and crypto industry

[19:30] How parenthood reshaped the way Dane thinks about risk

[22:50] Tips for encouraging employees to report their security concerns

[26:00] What a great security-vendor customer experience look like - and what too many vendors get wrong

[29:10] The security tools and solutions Dane is most excited about right now

[32:45] Balancing the hype and potential of security copilots

[38:30] What cyberattacks might look like five years from now

[41:30] Connect with Dane

Where to find Dane:

• LinkedIn

• Circle

Where to find Thomas Kinsella:

• LinkedIn

• Tines

Resources mentioned:

• National Cyber Forensics and Training Alliance

In this week’s episode of The Future of Security Operations podcast, Thomas is joined by Josh Lemos, CISO at GitLab.

Throughout his 15-year career in security, Josh has led teams at ServiceNow, Cylance, and Square. Known for his expertise in AI-driven security strategies, Josh is also a board member with HiddenLayer. He drives innovation at GitLab with a relentless focus on offensive security, identity management, and automation.

In this episode:

[02:05] His early career path from mechanic to electrical engineer to security leader

[03:35] Josh’s philosophy on hiring and mentoring, plus his tips for creating networking opportunities

[05:30] How he applies technical foundations from his practitioner days to his work as CISO

[07:40] Building product security at ServiceNow from the ground up

[10:40] “Down and in” versus “up and out” - adopting a new leadership style as CISO at Square

[12:17] Josh’s experience as an early AI and security researcher at Cylance

[16:15] What’s surprised Josh most about the evolution of AI

[18:50] Why Josh calls today’s models “AI version 1.0” - and what he thinks it will take to upgrade to version 2.0

[22:45] The LLM security threats Josh is most worried about, as a board member with Hidden Layer

[26:30] “Expressing exponential value” - what excited Josh most about becoming CISO at GitLab

[27:45] Why GitLab prioritizes “intentional transparency”

[32:45] How GitLab automates and orchestrates its Tier 1 and Tier 2 security processes

[34:10] How GitLab’s security team uses GitLab internally

[37:35] The secret to recruiting, hiring, and managing a remote, global team

[39:45] The importance of in-person collaboration for building trust and connection

[41:45] Downsizing, bootstrapping, and problem-solving: Josh’s predictions for the future of SecOps

[46:10] Connect with Josh

Where to find Josh:

• LinkedIn

• GitLab

Where to find Thomas Kinsella:

• LinkedIn

• Tines

Resources mentioned:

• GitLab's Security Handbook

• GitLab’s GUARD Framework

• Netskope's security blog

• Jobs at GitLab

• Haroon Meer