What if launching a tech startup was as easy as filling out a form?

Ben Collins, co-founder of Woz, joins Gabriel to unpack how his AI platform helps anyone — even non-technical founders — build full-stack software businesses. From betting against vertical SaaS to designing an AI cofounder you can trust, this conversation is a tactical deep dive into where startup creation is headed.

🔍 In this episode:

Why Woz pivoted away from a holding company model

What most AI-first code tools get totally wrong

How mobile-first enables higher quality standards

A unique approach to betting on future AI capability curves

The real reason most AI startups are failing users

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⏱ Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to Scaling and Bottlenecks

00:18 Introducing Ben Collins and Woz

01:04 The Vision Behind Woz

03:43 The Founding Story

06:06 The Shift to a Platform Approach

08:53 Navigating the Competitive Landscape

12:39 Philosophical and Strategic Insights

17:02 The Mobile-First Strategy

25:34 The Journey to Product-Market Fit

27:15 Navigating Rapid Technological Changes

32:21 The Impact of Y Combinator

35:00 AI's Role in Scaling Service Businesses

36:42 Challenges for Non-Technical Founders

39:13 Bold Predictions and Future Bets

45:02 Exciting Announcements and Closing Thoughts

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