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The Elephant In The Room Property Podcast | Inside Australian Real Estate

The Elephant In The Room Property Podcast | Inside Australian Real Estate

By: Veronica Morgan & Chris Bates
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 Who's really in control when you buy a property? The Elephant In The Room is where the things that no one wants to talk about, actually get talked about. Veronica Morgan, real estate agent, buyers agent and co-host of Foxtel’s Location Location Location Australia & Chris Bates, financial planner, mortgage broker and wealth coach have joined forces to find out what’s really going on in the world of real estate. Veronica and Chris talk to property owners and buyers every day in their respective lines of business. They’ve observed a wide spectrum of confidence in people’s decision making ability when buying and selling property, often to the detriment of the individuals concerned. They are both fascinated by consumer behaviour and together they’re going to uncover who’s really making the decisions when you buy a property. In each episode they get into the psyche of buyers, agents, auctioneers and other industry experts to learn the truth about how buyers are influenced and why they do the things they do. In every episode you’ll learn from the mistakes of a “property dumbo” as well as Chris & Veronica’s “elephant rider bootcamp” training session. The plan? This property podcast has been created to help us all make better property decisions!2025 Veronica Morgan & Chris Bates Economics Personal Finance Politics & Government
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  • Strata at a Crossroads: Why the System Needs Urgent Change

    Strata at a Crossroads: Why the System Needs Urgent Change
    Aug 17 2025
    Australia’s strata sector is under pressure — and it's no longer a niche issue. Following high-profile investigations by Four Corners and 7.30 Report, strata governance failures, building defects, and financial blowouts are now front and centre. With more Australians living in apartments and townhouses than ever before, what happens next in this space will impact millions. In this episode, Kate McHugh, co-founder of the Strata Futures Stakeholder Engagement and Roundtable, joins us to unpack what’s driving the crisis—and what needs to change. Drawing from her work on the Strata Futures Report, Kate outlines the six key reform pillars that emerged from cross-sector collaboration, covering everything from governance and professional standards to owner advocacy and sustainability. We explore how opaque commissions, underfunded capital works, power imbalances, and a fragmented regulatory system are eroding trust in strata—and why many apartment owners are left feeling blindsided by defects and skyrocketing levies. Kate also shares what it would take for the sector to turn itself around—before government intervention does it for them. Whether you're a strata owner, buyer, investor, or professional, this episode offers critical insight into the future of high-density living in Australia. Episode Highlights 00:00 – Welcome 02:09 – The Strata Sector's Challenges 04:14 – Governance and Regulation Issues 05:08 – The Round Table Initiative 11:54 – Sustainability in Strata 17:13 – The Six Pillars of Reform 26:07 – Understanding Strata Obligations 27:19 – The Importance of Maintenance and Governance Data 28:30 – Investing in the Strata Sector 29:08 – Personal Mission to Improve Property Decisions 30:18 – Challenges in Strata Education and Awareness 31:29 – Public Awareness and Training Initiatives 33:32 – Strata Management and Building Maintenance 37:00 – The Future of Strata Development 40:30 – Sector Collaboration and Task Force 44:14 – Final Thoughts and Call to Action Mentions Strata Futures - https://www.katemchugh.net/strata-futures About the Guest Kate McHugh is the co-founder of the Strata Futures Stakeholder Engagement and Roundtable and co-author of the Strata Futures Report. With a background in governance, policy, sustainability, and stakeholder engagement, Kate works at the intersection of lived experience and systemic reform in Australia’s strata sector. Partnering with former NSW Strata Commissioner John Minns and a wide network of industry and consumer leaders, Kate helped convene a cross-sector discussion to explore what’s broken—and what could be rebuilt. The outcome: a collaborative report outlining six key reform areas designed to make strata more equitable, transparent, and functional. Her work is helping push the conversation forward at a time when strata’s role in housing affordability, sustainability, and urban planning has never been more critical. Connect with Kate Website: https://www.katemchugh.net/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katemchughh/ Resources Visit our website: https://www.theelephantintheroom.com.auIf you have any questions or would like to be featured on our show, contact us at:The Elephant in the Room Property Podcast - questions@theelephantintheroom.com.au Looking for a Sydney Buyers Agent? https://www.gooddeeds.com.auWork with Veronica: https://www.veronicamorgan.com.auLooking for a Mortgage Broker? alcove.com.auWork with Chris: chrisbates@alcove.com.au Enjoyed the podcast? Don't miss out on what's yet to come! Hit that subscription button, spread the word, and join us for more insightful discussions in real estate. Your journey starts now! Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theelephantintheroom-podcastSubscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/the-elephant-in-the-room-property-podcast/id1384822719Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Ge1626dgnmK0RyKPcXjP0?si=26cde394fa854765 If you enjoyed today’s podcast, don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and share the show! There’s more to come, so we hope to have you along with us on this journey! See you on the inside, Veronica & ChrisSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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    48 mins
  • What Data-Driven Investors Get Wrong (And Right)

    What Data-Driven Investors Get Wrong (And Right)
    Aug 10 2025
    With property data becoming increasingly available, investors face a growing challenge: accurately interpreting the numbers. In this episode, Veronica and Chris speak with Matija Djolic, co-founder of HtAG Analytics, to discuss how investors can effectively use property data and avoid common mistakes. Matija outlines four essential questions investors need to address before making decisions, emphasizing the importance of clearly understanding risk profiles, investment timeframes, and personal objectives. He highlights frequent pitfalls, including chasing short-term gains, misunderstanding suburb-level data, and misinterpreting market "hotspots." This conversation equips investors with practical insights on responsible data use, clarifying when data can help… and when it might mislead. Whether you're an experienced investor or a first-time buyer, you'll gain valuable strategies for making smarter property decisions in today's data-rich environment. Episode Highlights 00:00 – Welcome 01:42 – The Origin of HtAG Analytics 03:35 – Key Questions for Property Investment 04:56 – Understanding Risk in Property Investment 12:35 – The Role of Data in Property Markets 15:30 – Challenges of Data Interpretation 17:57 – The Impact of Data Accessibility 24:37 – Strategies for Property Investment 34:11 – Navigating Tricky Real Estate Decisions 34:28 – Connecting with Veronica Morgan's Resources 35:12 – Understanding Property Scarcity and Sales Volume 36:01 – The Role of Data Accuracy in Real Estate 38:04 – Tech and Human Expertise in Real Estate 40:21 – Challenges with Real Estate Transparency 41:55 – The Importance of Personal Touch in Real Estate 43:10 – Buy and Hold vs Transacting Property 44:53 – Key Metrics for Long-Term Property Investment 46:11 – Affordability and Shifting Demographics 51:42 – Compounding Good Decision Making 55:32 – Common Myths in Real Estate 58:04 – Property Dumbo: A Cautionary Tale About the Guest Matija Djolic is the co-founder of HtAG Analytics and a leading data analytics coach specializing in the property investment sector. With a PhD in Organizational Psychology, Matija brings over seven years of experience guiding thousands of investors and buyer's agents through the complex maze of market analytics. Known for his expertise in both qualitative and quantitative pattern recognition, Matija empowers investors to make smarter, data-driven decisions that align with their long-term goals and risk profiles. His practical, no-nonsense approach challenges traditional investment assumptions, encouraging a more nuanced and informed understanding of property analytics. Connect with Matija Website: https://www.htag.com.au/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-matija-djolic-386475152/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/matijadjolic/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/matija.djolic.14/ Resources Visit our website: https://www.theelephantintheroom.com.auIf you have any questions or would like to be featured on our show, contact us at:The Elephant in the Room Property Podcast - questions@theelephantintheroom.com.au Looking for a Sydney Buyers Agent? https://www.gooddeeds.com.auWork with Veronica: https://www.veronicamorgan.com.auLooking for a Mortgage Broker? https://www.alcove.auWork with Chris: chrisbates@alcove.au Enjoyed the podcast? Don't miss out on what's yet to come! Hit that subscription button, spread the word, and join us for more insightful discussions in real estate. Your journey starts now! Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theelephantintheroom-podcastSubscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/the-elephant-in-the-room-property-podcast/id1384822719Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Ge1626dgnmK0RyKPcXjP0?si=26cde394fa854765 If you enjoyed today’s podcast, don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and share the show! There’s more to come, so we hope to have you along with us on this journey! See you on the inside, Veronica & ChrisSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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    1 hr and 2 mins
  • The Truth About Property Negotiation: Why Most Buyers Get It Wrong

    The Truth About Property Negotiation: Why Most Buyers Get It Wrong
    Aug 3 2025
    Today, we sit down with Scott Aggett, founder of Hello Haus, a negotiation service shaking up Australia’s property buying landscape. Scott pulls back the curtain on the high-stakes game of real estate negotiation and reveals why most buyers are unknowingly walking into traps laid by experienced selling agents. If you’ve ever felt outmatched or overwhelmed in the home-buying process, this conversation will open your eyes to what’s going on behind the scenes. Listeners will gain deep insights into the psychological tactics agents use to push buyers into emotional decisions, often costing them tens of thousands more than necessary. Scott explains why traditional buyer’s agents may not be equipped to negotiate effectively, and how negotiation as a service provides a smarter, leaner alternative for buyers who want to retain control without losing leverage. He shares examples of real-world mistakes and outlines how simple behavioural cues—like revisiting a property too many times or discussing price too early—can weaken your position. Whether you're a first-home buyer or a seasoned investor, this episode is packed with actionable tips to help you think more strategically and negotiate with confidence. We also explore how market dynamics are changing, what smart buyers are doing differently in 2025, and why negotiation is no longer a luxury—it’s a necessity. If you're serious about buying better, this is one you don't want to miss. Episode Highlights 00:00 – Welcome 03:10 – Why Most Buyers Are Outmatched by Selling Agents 05:47 – The Buyer’s Agent Problem: Sourcing ≠ Negotiating 18:10 – Emotional Buying: How It Undermines Your Leverage 25:32 – What to Say (and Not Say) When Dealing with Agents 37:42 – Auction Theatre: How FOMO is Engineered 42:10 – Negotiation as a Service: A Smarter Model for Modern Buyers 50:50 – The Future of Property Negotiation in Australia About the Guest Scott Aggett is one of Australia’s leading property negotiation experts, with over 30 years of experience and more than 4,000 successful real estate deals across Australia, the UK, and Asia. Beginning his career as a sales agent before launching multiple Belle Property franchises in Sydney’s Eastern Suburbs, Scott is renowned for his innovative "Negotiation as a Service" approach, which he pioneered through his company, Hello Haus. His negotiation-focused model has empowered countless Australian buyers to secure top-performing investments and dream homes with less stress and below-market prices. After Hello Haus was acquired by major industry players in 2024, Scott continues to advocate for transparent, client-focused property negotiations, regularly sharing market insights across major media and industry platforms. Connect with Scott Website: https://www.scottaggett.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottaggettInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/scottaggettFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/scott.aggett/ Resources Visit our website: https://www.theelephantintheroom.com.auIf you have any questions or would like to be featured on our show, contact us at:The Elephant in the Room Property Podcast - questions@theelephantintheroom.com.au Looking for a Sydney Buyers Agent? https://www.gooddeeds.com.auWork with Veronica: https://www.veronicamorgan.com.auLooking for a Mortgage Broker? https://www.alcove.auWork with Chris: chrisbates@alcove.au Enjoyed the podcast? Don't miss out on what's yet to come! Hit that subscription button, spread the word, and join us for more insightful discussions in real estate. Your journey starts now! Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theelephantintheroom-podcastSubscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/the-elephant-in-the-room-property-podcast/id1384822719Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Ge1626dgnmK0RyKPcXjP0?si=26cde394fa854765 If you enjoyed today’s podcast, don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and share the show! There’s more to come, so we hope to have you along with us on this journey! See you on the inside, Veronica & ChrisSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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    1 hr and 1 min
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