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The B2B Playbook

The B2B Playbook

By: Kevin Chen & George Coudounaris
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Selling Business to Business? Trying to do everything, but not sure if any of it works? We’re here to help! We're Kevin and George - digital marketing professionals who are here to share with you the RIGHT plan so you can get your amazing business growing online. We’ve waded through the noise, made the mistakes, and found what works so you don't have to. We also share tips, tricks and templates from our upcoming playbook and insights from successful people in the industry. If you’re in a B2B business and like to see your marketing work for you, then this is the podcast for you! Subscribe to get the latest from the B2B Playbook first. Join our CLUB of B2B owners and marketers on LinkedIn sharing their experiences https://www.linkedin.com/groups/13980317/ Want more? Check out our weekly articles on https://theb2bplaybook.com/ Remember, with the right plan, anyone can grow their business online!Copyright 2025 Kevin Chen & George Coudounaris Economics Leadership Management & Leadership Marketing Marketing & Sales
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  • #197: Community-Led Growth: How To Turn Customers Into Your Growth Engine (Laís de Oliveira)
    Sep 7 2025

    Community-Led Growth: How To Turn Customers Into Your Growth Engine

    We break down the playbook for community-led growth — how to move beyond engagement theater and build a system where customers become your distribution.


    Featuring Laís de Oliveira (author of Hacking Communities), this episode gives you practical frameworks like the Five Ps, the “lighthouse → port → city” journey, and closeness circles that turn casual users into passionate advocates and ambassadors.


    We show you how to:

    + Make community a core growth engine (not a side-channel)

    + Design onboarding and programming that build habit

    + Use contribution, access, and recognition to scale advocacy


    If you’re a B2B marketer on a small team, this episode shows how to create a community-led growth system that compounds your distribution and builds lasting trust with buyers.



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    🔗 Links + CTAs

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    💼 Need help running your own LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads? https://theb2bplaybook.com/linkedin-ads-agency


    🧠 Learn how to drive revenue across your organisation with CRO School: https://theb2bplaybook.com/cro-school


    🎓 Join our Demand Generation Program: https://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-course


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    🧑‍🎓ACCESS our B2B COURSES: https://theb2bplaybook.com/courses


    📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theb2bplaybook

    📩 Newsletter: https://theb2bplaybook.com/newsletter/

    📚 Latest content: https://theb2bplaybook.com/

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    00:00 Community-Led Growth: Your Unfair Distribution Advantage

    01:00 Why Brands Are Now Conversations (You Can’t Control Them)

    02:45 TL;DR Framework: From Clarity → Contribution → Advocacy

    04:15 The Five Ps Of Community-Led Growth

    06:00 Identity → Connectedness → Growth Formula

    08:00 Make Community Core To Value Creation

    10:00 Community-Led Growth x Business Model Canvas

    12:15 Jobs-To-Be-Done For Community-Led Growth

    14:30 B2B Examples: From CRM To Better Sellers

    16:20 Lighthouse → Port → City: How Communities Grow

    19:00 The First 21 Days: Onboarding That Sticks

    21:15 Programming That Brings People Back

    23:00 Turning Users Into Contributors

    25:10 Advocates vs Ambassadors In Community-Led Growth

    27:20 Closeness Circles: Reward With Access

    30:00 The Taylor Swift Playbook (For B2B Communities)

    32:10 Journey & Lifecycle: 1500:150:15 Ratios

    35:00 Pitfalls To Avoid In Community-Led Growth

    37:10 Make It A System: Track, Reward, Iterate

    39:30 Q&A: Communities Beyond Customers

    43:00 Q&A: Where To Start – Existing vs New Customers

    46:00 Q&A: Virality & Chapters In Community-Led Growth

    50:00 Q&A: When Is It Too Early To Start?

    53:00 Wrap: Community As A Value Engine


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    👥 Are you a B2B marketer in a small team??


    💰 Need to bring in more revenue for your company (so sales and your boss love you??)


    Get the:

    🔹 strategy

    🔹 templates

    🔹 tools


    So you have everything you need to drive more revenue for your brand.


    See why other B2B marketers like you love The B2B Incubator


    https://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-course


    S07 E197 - The B2B Playbook

    #b2b #b2bmarketing #digitalmarketing #demandgeneration #communityledgrowth

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    1 hr
  • #196: Why Most B2B Revenue Engines Fail - And How Paul Perrett is Building One to Go From $2-10mil
    Aug 31 2025

    Most B2B revenue engines stall out. In this episode, we break down why — and how to build one that actually scales.

    Paul Perrett (CEO, Firmable) joins us with Adem Manderovic (Closed Circuit Selling, CRO School) to map ARR model, the 10-line economic engine, and why cataloguing and ecosystem activation beat brute-force outbound.


    We unpack how to work backwards from revenue goals, align Sales, Marketing and CS around market validations, and build compounding demand with brand and partners.


    Tune in and learn:

    + The 10-line economic model behind a scalable B2B revenue engine

    + How to replace MQLs with market validations and fix SDR incentives

    + Ecosystem activation plays that compound trust and pipeline


    If you’re a B2B marketer in a small team, this is a must-watch. It’s practical, numbers-first, and shows how to turn brand, SDRs, inbound, and partners into one working B2B revenue engine.



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    🔗 Links + CTAs

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    💼 Need help running your own LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads? https://theb2bplaybook.com/linkedin-ads-agency


    🧠 Learn how to drive revenue across your organisation with CRO School: https://theb2bplaybook.com/cro-school


    🎓 Join our Demand Generation Program: https://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-course


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    🧑‍🎓ACCESS our B2B COURSES: https://theb2bplaybook.com/courses


    📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theb2bplaybook

    📩 Newsletter: https://theb2bplaybook.com/newsletter/

    📚 Latest content: https://theb2bplaybook.com/

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    00:00 Scaling from traction to a real revenue engine

    01:00 Meet Paul Perrett (Firmable CEO) + Adem Manderovic

    03:00 What Firmable does and the CEO’s many hats

    05:20 Modelling $2M to $10M ARR with a 10-line engine

    09:30 Three demand channels: SDR, inbound, partners

    12:20 Cataloguing vs predictable revenue: the missing metric

    18:50 Why incentives break SDRs (and how to fix them)

    22:00 Ecosystem activation and compounding demand

    26:40 Brand, trust, and the founder-led play

    33:00 Selling brand and long-term plays to boards & CFOs

    42:00 The bets Firmable is making to reach $10M ARR

    49:40 Signals, SEA expansion, and the myths of Aussie SaaS


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    👥 Are you a B2B marketer in a small team??


    💰 Need to bring in more revenue for your company (so sales and your boss love you??)


    Get the:

    🔹 strategy

    🔹 templates

    🔹 tools


    So you have everything you need to drive more revenue for your brand.


    See why other B2B marketers like you love The B2B Incubator


    https://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-course


    S07 E195 - The B2B Playbook

    #b2b #b2bmarketing #digitalmarketing #demandgeneration #outboundsales

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    1 hr and 1 min
  • Last Chance: Register for Our Demand Gen Course by Friday 29 August - theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-course
    Aug 27 2025

    This is your last chance to join our Demand Gen Course – The B2B Incubator – before doors close on Friday, 29 August.

    https://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-course

    Inside the program, you’ll get:

    • On-demand materials you can work through in your own time
    • 6x live Q&A sessions with George to get your questions answered and stay accountable
    • A proven framework trusted by marketers in both SaaS and services


    Alison at RIVET used it to build a demand engine that now sources 70% of pipeline from marketing.


    Allister Hamilton used it to triple his pipeline in services.

    If you’re a small marketing team and want to stop chasing bad leads and start building a system that drives real revenue — this is your shot.


    👉 Register now before doors close Friday, 29 August: https://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-course

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    2 mins
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