In a wide-ranging interview with David Hunt, Jessica Stern recounts pivotal moments in her career, from her work as a scholar and global human rights activist to her tenure as the top queer diplomat in the U.S. State Department during the Biden administration.

Stern, now a senior fellow at the Carr-Ryan Center for Human Rights at Harvard, critiques the Trump administration’s retreat on LGBTQ human rights and offers her optimistic prescription for reasserting progressive ideals in the U.S. and beyond.

Stern gives a behind-the-scenes look at a historic U.N. Security Council meeting she helped organize in August 2015 that focused the council’s attention — for the first time — on LGBTQ human rights. And she discusses the difficult decision to move to Washington, D.C., in 2021 to become the U.S. Special Envoy Advancing the Human Rights of LGBTQI+ Persons. During her three-year tenure at the State Department, Stern worked to raise the profile of LGBTQ rights in U.S. foreign policy and to assist LGBTQ people facing violence and discrimination around the world.

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David Hunt is an Emmy-winning journalist and documentary producer who has reported on America's culture wars since the 1970s. Explore his blog, Tell Me, David.

Mainstream news outlets regularly cover LGBTQ stories, reporting on everything from queer culture and the arts to political and legal struggles for equality around the world. But that’s a relatively recent phenomenon. Until the 1990s, most news organizations paid little attention to LGBTQ news beyond coverage of the HIV/AIDS epidemic.

In the decade after Stonewall, most news about the gay and lesbian community was covered by a few local LGBTQ newspapers, such as Gay Community News in Boston and the Bay Area Reporter in San Francisco.

But who covered queer news in the bad old days, the pre-Stonewall era, when most LGBTQ people were closeted? It turns out, it all started with a few brave soldiers stationed in the American South during World War II and a young lesbian who worked in the entertainment industry in Hollywood. They published what are believed to be the first gay and lesbian newsletters in the United States — in the 1940s.

David Hunt got the scoop from a pioneering gay historian, Allan Bérubé, at the 1983 convention of the Gay and Lesbian Press Association in San Francisco. Produced for This Way Out: The International LGBTQ Radio Magazine.

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David Hunt is an Emmy-winning journalist and documentary producer who has reported on America's culture wars since the 1970s. Explore his blog, Tell Me, David.

Jennifer Knapp burst onto the Christian music scene in the late 1990s with an energy and honesty that resonated with thousands of young people searching for meaning and connection. Knapp’s first three albums sold over 1 million copies and earned the singer/songwriter two Grammy nominations and a Dove Award for New Artist of the Year in 1999.

But success took its toll. Exhausted by the pace and pressures of the industry, Knapp stopped performing in 2002 and left the United States, moving to Australia to clear her head and nourish her heart.

Seven years later, she returned to the U.S. with unexpected news: she was coming out with a new album, “Letting Go,” and coming out of the closet as a proud lesbian in a long-term relationship.

After a firestorm of controversy in the media, Knapp settled down in Nashville and settled into the work of recreating her career — this time outside of contemporary Christian music.

On the eve of her upcoming U.S. tour, Knapp sat down with David Hunt to recall the early days of her career and to discuss her recent work, which still focuses on the human search for love and meaning.

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David Hunt is an Emmy-winning journalist and documentary producer who has reported on America's culture wars since the 1970s. Explore his blog, Tell Me, David.