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  • Greg Froelick: Navy SEAL on the Camp Mystic Flood, 300 Justice Road, and the Mission That Never Ends

    Greg Froelick: Navy SEAL on the Camp Mystic Flood, 300 Justice Road, and the Mission That Never Ends
    Oct 29 2025
    More Than the Uniform: Greg Froelick’s Pursuit of Purpose This week on the Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus and Melanie sit down with former Navy SEAL and private aviation businessman*, Greg Froelick—a man who has dedicated his life to excellence, discipline, and service both on and off the battlefield. Greg’s journey began after college, when he chose to serve his country and earned his place among the elite ranks of the U.S. Navy SEAL Teams. His time in special operations sharpened his perspective on resilience, teamwork, and intentional living—lessons he now carries into every corner of his life. After leaving the military, Greg transitioned into the medical sales industry, where he quickly proved himself in a competitive arena. His combination of grit, professionalism, and mission-focused thinking eventually opened the door to his next chapter with EMCJET, a premier group in the private aviation space. Today, he plays a key role on the EMCJET team, helping deliver world-class service with a warrior’s level of precision and accountability. Greg recounts his experience aiding in the recovery efforts following the July 4th Camp Mystic flood disaster. He and Marcus reflect on their immediate decision to head to the affected area, coordinating the logistics required to make a meaningful impact—joining forces with several fellow Navy SEALs to provide help where it was needed most. Greg’s story is a reminder that your mission doesn’t end when one chapter closes. Whether in uniform or in business, he continues to serve — helping others live with intention. In this episode you will hear: • We shouldn’t be on no defense - Department of Defense. This is the Department of War. We don’t go on defense. You step up, and we’ll come in and crush the shit out of you. (19:02) • Got into private aviation. It’s like a real estate agent for private jets. (22:46) • [The gate at Camp Mystic] was twisted. You can’t talk about it and do it justice – the way it was twisted steel. (34:46) • We’re not by any means a search and rescue outfit, but we knew that we could help. (36:31) • We’re this close to being signed up to be a care coalition. It’s a safe place to land. (36:51) • You’re at that point where “I hope I don’t find anything” [and at the same time] “I hope I find it.” (41:01) • When the cadaver dogs showed up and the backhoe maintainers showed up – Game Changers. (41:16) • The one’s that’ll never get any attention or no one will ever know who they are the drivers of the maintainers. (41:51) • How many times did we walk on somebody before we even found ‘em, because they were buried under the dirt from the Cypress trees. (43:30) • This is why it was key to have the cadaver dogs because of everything else that was dead around it: horses, pigs, deer, dogs. (44:02) • Everything aside from the situation – A lot of good came from all that. (46:55) • The more people sometimes – the harder it becomes. Everybody just wants to help. We were fortunate to get in the way we got in. (48:27) • No one was there yet. It was just us. (48:40) Support Greg: https://300justiceroad.com/ Support TNQ - IG: team_neverquit , marcusluttrell , melanieluttrell , huntero13 - https://www.patreon.com/teamneverquit Sponsors: - Tractorsupply.com/hometownheroes - Navyfederal.org - meetfabiric.com/TNQ - masterclass.com/TNQ - Prizepicks (TNQ) - Dripdrop.com/TNQ - cargurus.com/TNQ - armslist.com/TNQ - PXGapparel.com/TNQ - bruntworkwear.com/TNQ - Selectquote.com/TNQ - Groundnews.com/TNQ - shipsticks.com/TNQ - strawberry.me/TNQ - stopboxusa.com {TNQ} - ghostbed.com/TNQ [TNQ] - kalshi.com/TNQ - joinbilt.com/TNQ - Tonal.com [TNQ] - greenlight.com/TNQ - PDSDebt.com/TNQ - drinkAG1.com/TNQ - Shadyrays.com [TNQ] - qualialife.com/TNQ [TNQ] - Hims.com/TNQ - Shopify.com/TNQ - Aura.com/TNQ - TAKELEAN.com [TNQ] - usejoymode.com [TNQ]
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    1 hr and 1 min
  • Christian Hickey: From Marine to Green Beret to Peacemaker - Bringing the Gospel to the Front Lines of Ukraine & Beyond

    Christian Hickey: From Marine to Green Beret to Peacemaker - Bringing the Gospel to the Front Lines of Ukraine & Beyond
    Oct 22 2025
    From Marine… to Green Beret… to Peacemaker This week, Marcus and Melanie sit down with an unconventional warrior with an unconventional calling—Christian Hickey, Founder and CEO of the Triple A Authority Foundation, husband, father of three, Marine, Police Officer, Green Beret, and now… missionary on the front lines of Ukraine. Christian’s journey reads like a novel you’d assume was fiction—yet every chapter is true. For over 15 years of military service and 15 years in law enforcement, Christian has lived a life of duty—to God, to his country, and to his community. His time as a United States Marine and later as a U.S. Army Green Beret gave him the tactical expertise to operate in the world’s harshest conflict zones. But it was behind the badge, on the streets of American neighborhoods, that he honed a different weapon—the power of communication. “As a police officer, I learned to listen and speak to people in a meaningful manner. Those communication skills allowed me to solve problems, restore peace, and bring change.” Christian earned his Associate Degree in Criminal Justice and is currently completing a Bachelor’s in Evangelism at Liberty University. Yet nothing could have prepared him for the mission God would call him to next. At age 41, he found himself on the frontline in a small Ukrainian village, serving not as a soldier, but as a missionary—bringing aid, hope, and the Gospel into a war zone. “If you had asked me six months prior, I would’ve never guessed I’d be in Ukraine serving as an unconventional missionary. But God knew what to do with a born-again Christian, Marine, Police Officer, and Green Beret.” Through his foundation, Triple A Authority, Christian combines faith, humanitarian work, and tactical mission skills to reach the unreachable and serve those in the shadow of war. His story is a reminder that purpose isn’t always found in comfort—sometimes it’s found in chaos, obedience, and calling. This episode is a powerful reminder that service can take many forms—and that sometimes the most dangerous places reveal the deepest purpose. Christian Hickey is a man living out his faith with courage, humility, and conviction—and his story will challenge, inspire, and move you. In this episode you will hear: • What really pushed me into the military was that I wanted to become a deputy Sheriff. (13:01) • I accepted Christ when I was a young man, but I’ve always been intentional with my faith. (30:38) • God was real to me. He said “I’m calling you into ministry now.” I still don’t know what that meant at the time. (31:35) • I believe that the season that you’re in now; God is preparing you for the next season. (32:41) • I was following Psalms: 105, the lit path for me to continue to go. (35:17) • When you’ve got all of the DOD behind you, you don’t carry much fear with you. (41:21) • When Jesus is in charge of your life - This is not my rodeo. (44:05) • I’ve never been shot at by a tank Before. (46:24) • The Ukranian men and women are some of the best soldiers I’ve ever met. They’re so resilient. (50:12) • I’m the chaplain for SOCOM athletes. (61:56) • I pray that through this war, that Christ is revealed, and His authority is king, and His love is felt, and many come to know Christ through it. (70:41) • We have a God. He has a son, His son’s name is Jesus Christ and He died for us. If you believe that in your heart, you believe He was raised three days later, you will be saved. Do you want that in your life? Do you believe that in your heart? All I heard was “Da da” which means “Yes, I want Jesus.” (71:28) Support Christian: tripleaauthority.org Support TNQ - IG: team_neverquit , marcusluttrell , melanieluttrell , huntero13 - https://www.patreon.com/teamneverquit Sponsors: - Tractorsupply.com/hometownheroes - Navyfederal.org - meetfabiric.com/TNQ - masterclass.com/TNQ - Prizepicks (TNQ) - Dripdrop.com/TNQ - cargurus.com/TNQ - armslist.com/TNQ - PXGapparel.com/TNQ - bruntworkwear.com/TNQ - Selectquote.com/TNQ - Groundnews.com/TNQ - shipsticks.com/TNQ - strawberry.me/TNQ - stopboxusa.com {TNQ} - ghostbed.com/TNQ [TNQ] - kalshi.com/TNQ - joinbilt.com/TNQ - Tonal.com [TNQ] - greenlight.com/TNQ - PDSDebt.com/TNQ - drinkAG1.com/TNQ - Shadyrays.com [TNQ] - qualialife.com/TNQ [TNQ] - Hims.com/TNQ - Shopify.com/TNQ - Aura.com/TNQ - TAKELEAN.com [TNQ] - usejoymode.com [TNQ]
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    1 hr and 13 mins
  • Justin Hughes: Navy SEAL on the Hardest Tests in BUD/S, the Phone Phantom, and Discovering Purpose Through Oil Painting

    Justin Hughes: Navy SEAL on the Hardest Tests in BUD/S, the Phone Phantom, and Discovering Purpose Through Oil Painting
    Oct 15 2025
    From SEAL to Studio: The Art of Grit with Justin Hughes In this week’s episode of the Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus, Melanie, and Hunter sit down with Justin Hughes — former Navy SEAL turned professional oil painter — whose journey from the battlefield to the art studio embodies the essence of transformation, discipline, and creative courage. Based out of Charleston, South Carolina, Justin has redefined what it means to serve and to create. As a self-taught representational artist, he channels the lessons, emotions, and intensity of his time in the SEAL Teams into his paintings, merging the warrior spirit with the sensitivity of the fine arts. His mission is to bridge two seemingly distant worlds — the world of combat and the world of creativity — revealing that both demand vision, perseverance, and heart. Listeners will hear how Justin’s childhood in Southeast Asia, and a fateful encounter with Lone Survivor sparked a dream that would change his life forever. His story takes us through the rigors of SEAL training, moments of doubt and triumph, and the eventual transition from military service to artistry — a path shaped by struggle, purpose, and redemption. Through his brushstrokes, Justin explores what it means to be a modern warrior — one who fights not only on the battlefield but also in the soul. Drawing comparisons to the renaissance genius Leonardo da Vinci, Hughes uses his art to express the beauty within discipline and the strength found in vulnerability. In this episode you will hear: • My dad was a Huey pilot. (8:44) • I grew up all over Southeast Asia (9:20) • I was thinking: Whatever is gonna be the hardest thing to do in the military; wherever that realm is, those are the people that want to be in those jobs the most. That’s gotta be where my people are at. (14:41) • One of the biggest misconceptions of BUDs is you can’t just show up and not quit. You still have to be a good team guy. You still have to do the work. You gotta be a performer. You gotta be a pro. We’re looking for the whole man. (21:05) • For those of you who don’t know what pool competency is. It’s the hardest single test in BUDs. (37:55) • When I first started painting, I didn’t know any artists. I didn’t know anything about art. (62:48) • [Melanie] Q: What’s your goal with art? A: Just to be better every day. And continue to provide paintings that are meaningful to people. To glorify the Lord through whatever work I’m doing. (74:30) • I’m still saying “Hooyah! like turrets. (75:25) • It takes a lot of bad work. You’ve gotta be patient with the process. Sometimes a really good thing will look really bad for a long time for a long time before you can polish it up and make it into something beautiful. So… don’t quit. (86:43) Support Justin: www.justinhughesart.com - IG: justin_hughes_art Support TNQ - IG: team_neverquit , marcusluttrell , melanieluttrell , huntero13 - https://www.patreon.com/teamneverquit Sponsors: - Tractorsupply.com/hometownheroes - Navyfederal.org - meetfabiric.com/TNQ - masterclass.com/TNQ - Prizepicks (TNQ) - Dripdrop.com/TNQ - cargurus.com/TNQ - armslist.com/TNQ - PXGapparel.com/TNQ - bruntworkwear.com/TNQ - Selectquote.com/TNQ - Groundnews.com/TNQ - shipsticks.com/TNQ - strawberry.me/TNQ - stopboxusa.com {TNQ} - ghostbed.com/TNQ [TNQ] - kalshi.com/TNQ - joinbilt.com/TNQ - Tonal.com [TNQ] - greenlight.com/TNQ - PDSDebt.com/TNQ - drinkAG1.com/TNQ - Shadyrays.com [TNQ] - qualialife.com/TNQ [TNQ] - Hims.com/TNQ - Shopify.com/TNQ - Aura.com/TNQ - TAKELEAN.com [TNQ] - usejoymode.com [TNQ]
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    1 hr and 29 mins
  • Drago Dzieran: How a Political Prisoner Escaped Communism and Became a U.S. Navy SEAL & True American Hero (Rebroadcast)

    Drago Dzieran: How a Political Prisoner Escaped Communism and Became a U.S. Navy SEAL & True American Hero (Rebroadcast)
    Oct 8 2025
    A Real American – Born in Poland. In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus & Melanie meet with Drago Dzieran, a former political prisoner for his activism against Communism. After arriving in the United States unable to speak English, Drago eventually became a US citizen, enlisted in the U.S. Navy and trained to serve as a Navy SEAL. In Iraq, he fought in over 100 combat missions as the Naval Special Warfare Lead Breacher. Drago was awarded Bronze Star with “V” for valor, Navy Commendation Medal with “V” for valor, in addition to other various awards and decorations. Following his honorable retirement after twenty years in the Navy, Dzieran began a successful career as a software engineer. Drago founded the Navy SEALs Fund, a nonprofit with the mission of providing support for all generations of current, retired, and former UDT/SEAL teammates, their immediate dependents as well as Gold Star Families. Listen in as Drago shares his amazing life journey from Poland to living life as a real American in service to others. In This Episode You Will Hear: • I was born in communist Poland. It was actually a socialist state run by communists. My father was part of the evil system. • I’m not Polish-American; I am not “Something”-American. There is no hyphen. I’m just American. • I spent 20 years as a Navy SEAL. • [My grandmother] taught me how to pray, and what to pray for. • I still remember her [grandmother’s] words: “Poland is not free. It will not be free until we get rid of these people. • [When my father found out] I was not allowed to pray with my grandmother alone. • Prison time for me was education. A huge education about Polish history. • I’ll be the best US citizen America can have. • The law was created in the socialist state to penalize free thinking. To criminalize opposition. • America was built on the idea of personal freedom. • These people [Ukranians] are fighting for their lives now - freedom. • Ukranians were always very patriotic. • [Navy SEALS Fund] The way we operate is different than most charities. We don’t have paid positions. The fund is run by SEALS only. • We help the Gold Start families: the spouse, the children, parents and siblings. There would be no Drago if not for people like Marcus, Morgan, Rob, Tage, Taco, & Jocco. • I’m a better American today than I was yesterday, and I want to be a better American tomorrow than I am today. • My biggest accomplishment is becoming a U.S. citizen. Support TNQ - IG: team_neverquit , marcusluttrell , melanieluttrell , huntero13 - https://www.patreon.com/teamneverquit Sponsors: - tractorsupply.com/hometownheroes - Navyfederal.org - meetfabiric.com/TNQ - masterclass.com/TNQ - Prizepicks (TNQ) - Dripdrop.com/TNQ - cargurus.com/TNQ - armslist.com/TNQ - PXGapparel.com/TNQ - bruntworkwear.com/TNQ - Selectquote.com/TNQ - Groundnews.com/TNQ - shipsticks.com/TNQ - strawberry.me/TNQ - stopboxusa.com {TNQ} - ghostbed.com/TNQ [TNQ] - kalshi.com/TNQ - joinbilt.com/TNQ - Tonal.com [TNQ] - greenlight.com/TNQ
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    2 hrs and 39 mins
  • Jake Schmitt: Crushed in the Backcountry - The Survival Story of a Guide, His Dog, And an Impossible Crawl to Safety

    Jake Schmitt: Crushed in the Backcountry - The Survival Story of a Guide, His Dog, And an Impossible Crawl to Safety
    Oct 1 2025
    The Crawl: How Jake Schmitt Survived a Mountain Crash — Thanks to His Dog In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus & Melanie sit down with Utah hunting guide Jake Schmitt to hear his incredible story of survival in the Uintah Mountains. What began as a summer scouting trip for mule deer turned into an 11-hour crawl for his life — with only his dog, Buddy, by his side. Jake shares how he went from releasing an elk calf from a trap to being crushed in a UTV rollover, and how his knowledge of self-rescue, grit, and an extraordinary bond with his German shorthaired pointer helped him make it out alive. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: • How a routine scouting trip in the Uintah Mountains went horribly wrong • The split-second decisions that led to the UTV rollover and Jake’s devastating injuries • Why his dog Buddy became the key to his survival — providing motivation & warmth • Field-tested self-rescue skills every outdoorsperson should know • Jake’s recovery process, and how he’s preparing to return to the mountains and the buck he first spotted Key Moments: • The Hunt: Scouting for a velvet mule deer buck in remote country • The Rescue: Freeing an elk calf from a trap moments before disaster struck • The Crash: A UTV rollover shattering bones and gear — but not Jake’s resolve • The Crawl: 11 hours of crawling, crossing creeks, and following Buddy’s promptings to safety • The Recovery: Rods, screws, and staples — but a plan to guide hunters again this fall This episode is more than a survival story. It’s about preparedness, mindset, and the unbreakable bond between a hunter and his dog. Whether you hunt, hike, or just love hearing how ordinary people survive extraordinary situations, this conversation will stay with you. In this episode you will hear: • In between normal life and sports, I always was hunting. (7:12) • Welding funds my guiding addiction. (8:54) • The incredible story of Jake’s accident and subsequent crawl for his life starts here. (22:03 • [Jake’s dog, Buddy] went with it. He came up and found me. (26:40) • So, what I ended up doing was grabbing this and summersaulting down. It doesn’t sound like that far, but it was like 100 feet. It was a good tumble, and I’m just screaming. (31:25) • I’ve been guiding way up north where I’ve seen a German Shepherd get baited into the woods by wolves and they rip him to shreds. (33:12) • The first thing I thought was I have no light. How the hell am I gonna do this? I don’t even know where I’m going. (33:33) • I’m dragging the leg, and I’m going so far downhill that if I try to turn around, I start to tumble, but if I go the other way I drag and drag, but you’re going up and over this, up and over that, you’re going under this log, you’re going over that log, so I’ve gone maybe a third of a mile in 3 hours. And I’m like I’m gonna die out here. (36:53) • Jake’s explanation of flipping over on his knee and break his leg again, and Buddy finally gets it. (38:19) • It was 4 miles of straight rock. (44:34) • At the time mentally, I am just gone. But the dog as there and I felt obligated. (45:54) • At some point I just got it out of my head: Whatever’s gonna happen is gonna happen. At that moment, something changed in me. (58:10) • The best PT for me is doing the same damn thing that I was doing. (64:34) Support TNQ - IG: team_neverquit , marcusluttrell , melanieluttrell , huntero13 - https://www.patreon.com/teamneverquit Sponsors: - Navyfederal.org - meetfabiric.com/TNQ - masterclass.com/TNQ - Prizepicks (TNQ) - Dripdrop.com/TNQ - cargurus.com/TNQ - armslist.com/TNQ - PXGapparel.com/TNQ - bruntworkwear.com/TNQ - Selectquote.com/TNQ - Groundnews.com/TNQ - shipsticks.com/TNQ - strawberry.me/TNQ - stopboxusa.com {TNQ} - ghostbed.com/TNQ [TNQ] - kalshi.com/TNQ - joinbilt.com/TNQ - Tonal.com [TNQ] - greenlight.com/TNQ - PDSDebt.com/TNQ - drinkAG1.com/TNQ - Shadyrays.com [TNQ] - qualialife.com/TNQ [TNQ] - Hims.com/TNQ - Shopify.com/TNQ - Aura.com/TNQ - TAKELEAN.com [TNQ] - usejoymode.com [TNQ]
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    1 hr and 16 mins
  • Kaj Larsen: Inside the Life of a Navy SEAL Turned Journalist, Exploring Media, Entrepreneurship, & Veteran Success

    Kaj Larsen: Inside the Life of a Navy SEAL Turned Journalist, Exploring Media, Entrepreneurship, & Veteran Success
    Sep 24 2025
    Kaj Larsen: From Navy SEAL to Groundbreaking Journalist This week on the Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus and Melanie welcome an extraordinary guest whose life reads like an action thriller—Kaj Larsen. Born in Santa Cruz, California, Kaj earned his Political Science degree from UC Santa Cruz and went on to Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government for a master’s in Public Policy, where he was a Shorenstein Center fellow and a joint fellow at Tufts Jebsen Center for Counter-Terrorism Studies. Kaj’s journey is anything but ordinary. Before breaking stories on global conflict zones, he served five years on active duty as a U.S. Navy SEAL Lieutenant leading special operations overseas. He continues to serve in the SEAL reserves with U.S. Special Operations Command. As an award-winning filmmaker and journalist, Kaj has reported from some of the most dangerous places on earth—Nigeria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, and beyond—producing groundbreaking documentaries on terrorism, national security, and humanitarian crises. He’s been a senior correspondent at NowThis News, hosted the Emmy Award-winning VICE on HBO, and developed the Vanguard Journalism series for Current TV. Kaj made headlines for being the first journalist to bring waterboarding to public attention—by undergoing it himself on camera—and for breaking media silence in Mogadishu as the first Western TV journalist there in over a decade. Outside the newsroom, Kaj is a two-time national open-water swimming champion, an Escape from Alcatraz duathlon competitor, and a dedicated practitioner of Brazilian jiu-jitsu and Muay Thai boxing. His commitment to service extends beyond reporting: he co-founded The Mission Continues and serves on the boards of Team Rubicon Global and other veteran service organizations, deploying for humanitarian missions around the world. Join us as Kaj shares stories from his remarkable career—what it takes to tell the truth from the frontlines, the lessons learned from military service and global reporting, and why resilience and service are at the heart of his mission. Tune in for a gripping, behind-the-scenes look at a life dedicated to serving, reporting, and making an impact on a global scale. In this episode you will hear: • [COVID} Here’s a crisis that is about health, and you’re shutting down wellness. (7:10) • Murph was my roommate when I first got to BUD/S. He’s the first person I met. (32:04) • The thing that got me through was the old “I guess you just have to do it.” (37:12) • Your inner monologue and how you talk to yourself is the only thing that gets you through. (38:34) • Everybody wants to be a frog man on a sunny day. (38:52) • You gotta be careful who you surround yourself with, because cowardice is contagious. (42:37) • I could cover any story I wanted, anywhere in the world. Anything I thought was important. (60:52) • I was always working on helping veterans (62:56) • Purpose maters. (64:09) • The real truth is the greatest and most consistent ways for Americans to build wealth over the last 50 years has been investing in the stock market. (66:22) • A lot of people don’t understand the concept of compound interest. (77:40) • We’re the greatest economy the world has ever seen. (82:26) Support Kaj: www.kajlarsen.com - Tactical Wealth podcast - IG: Kajlarsen Support TNQ - IG: team_neverquit , marcusluttrell , melanieluttrell , huntero13 - https://www.patreon.com/teamneverquit Sponsors: - Navyfederal.org - meetfabiric.com/TNQ - masterclass.com/TNQ - Prizepicks (TNQ) - Dripdrop.com/TNQ - cargurus.com/TNQ - armslist.com/TNQ - PXGapparel.com/TNQ - bruntworkwear.com/TNQ - Selectquote.com/TNQ - Groundnews.com/TNQ - shipsticks.com/TNQ - strawberry.me/TNQ - stopboxusa.com {TNQ} - ghostbed.com/TNQ [TNQ] - kalshi.com/TNQ - joinbilt.com/TNQ - Tonal.com [TNQ] - greenlight.com/TNQ - PDSDebt.com/TNQ - drinkAG1.com/TNQ - Shadyrays.com [TNQ] - qualialife.com/TNQ [TNQ] - Hims.com/TNQ - Shopify.com/TNQ - Aura.com/TNQ - TAKELEAN.com [TNQ] - usejoymode.com [TNQ]
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    1 hr and 31 mins
  • Calley Means: Exposing How Profits Drive Chronic Disease - NYT #1 Bestseller & White House Adviser on MAHA

    Calley Means: Exposing How Profits Drive Chronic Disease - NYT #1 Bestseller & White House Adviser on MAHA
    Sep 17 2025
    Exposing Big Food, Big Pharma, and the Path to True Health In this week’s episode, Marcus, Melanie meet with Calley Means — entrepreneur, healthcare reform advocate, and co-founder of TrueMed. Calley has been making waves in the national conversation about health, nutrition, and the systems driving chronic disease. As a former consultant to some of the largest food and pharmaceutical companies in the world, Calley offers a rare insider’s perspective on how financial incentives can prioritize profits over people. Now, through TrueMed, he’s working to flip the script — helping Americans use tax-free health savings accounts to pay for food, exercise, wellness coaching, and other preventative health measures. Calley is also the co-author (with his sister) of the bestselling book Good Energy, which explores the connection between metabolism and health, and he’s an investor in companies tackling metabolic health, mental health, and longevity. A graduate of Stanford University and Harvard Business School, Calley also co-founded Anomalie, a custom bridal brand later acquired by David’s Bridal. In this powerful and eye-opening conversation, Calley shares: •How his insider view of Big Food and Big Pharma shaped his mission to reform healthcare •The shocking incentives that drive the chronic disease crisis in America •How TrueMed empowers people to use HSAs and FSAs for healthy living •The link between metabolism, mental health, and performance — and why it matters for every American •Why systemic change requires both personal responsibility and policy reform Whether you’re a health professional, a parent trying to improve your family’s nutrition, or simply curious about the future of healthcare, this episode will challenge assumptions and offer practical solutions. Don’t miss this episode with Calley Means — a candid, informed, and inspiring discussion on how we can take back control of our health. In this episode you will hear: • [Marcus] We turned a vegan into a meat-eater. A vegetarian was working at our house and smelled [Mama Holly’s Prime Rib] and said “What is that?” And I said that’s prime rib and said “I’m a vegetarian.” I said “I don’t know man. I think you might give this one a whirl.” (3:20) • Pharmaceutical is about 50% of TV advertising. (5:50) • The 2 ways you get researchers money is just research grants (that’s their life blood) and direct bribes. (7:10) • Anxiety was created as a sub-category of medicine in the 1970s, explicitly by pharmaceutical companies who had Valium to sell. (8:21) • If you can make obesity a national standard and tell people it’s not you fault and jab them for a lifetime – that’s a profitable patient. (18:33) • 25% of women are on some kind of psychiatric drugs, That produces reoccurring appointments and prescriptions. (20:01) • A doctor is a medical drug doctor. They’re a drug prescriber. Who made that rule? That’s not how it is in other countries. (22:51) • [Marcus] If you tell yourself your body is a racecar, or a fighter jet, or a monster truck, what kind of fuel are you putting in that sucker? (36:40) • If you can get seed oils, processed sugar and processed grains out of you house, that gets you about 80% there [the single most important thing a household could do.] • I think people should be more scared. I think we should have apps and blood tests and doctors telling people “You’re not gonna make it through your life to meet your grandkids.” (41:57) • [Farmers] have low prices, high input costs, more weather challenges, trade issues that aren’t their fault. They’re taking it from all fronts. (59:05) • The system is built for drugs, not medicine right now. Drugs are profitable, healing is not profitable. Thriving is not profitable. (65:56) Support Calley: Book --> https://a.co/d/8T7DaqJ Support TNQ - IG: team_neverquit , marcusluttrell , melanieluttrell , huntero13 - https://www.patreon.com/teamneverquit Sponsors: - Navyfederal.org - meetfabiric.com/TNQ - masterclass.com/TNQ - Prizepicks (TNQ) - Dripdrop.com/TNQ - cargurus.com/TNQ - armslist.com/TNQ - PXGapparel.com/TNQ - bruntworkwear.com/TNQ - Selectquote.com/TNQ - Groundnews.com/TNQ - shipsticks.com/TNQ - strawberry.me/TNQ - stopboxusa.com {TNQ} - ghostbed.com/TNQ [TNQ] - kalshi.com/TNQ - joinbilt.com/TNQ - Tonal.com [TNQ] - greenlight.com/TNQ - PDSDebt.com/TNQ - drinkAG1.com/TNQ - Shadyrays.com [TNQ] - qualialife.com/TNQ [TNQ] - Hims.com/TNQ - Shopify.com/TNQ - Aura.com/TNQ - TAKELEAN.com [TNQ] - usejoymode.com [TNQ]
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    1 hr and 7 mins
  • Cesalina Gracie: Grandchild of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Founder, Mindset Is Stronger Than Muscle, Climbing Mt. Everest (Rebroadcast)

    Cesalina Gracie: Grandchild of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Founder, Mindset Is Stronger Than Muscle, Climbing Mt. Everest (Rebroadcast)
    Sep 10 2025
    Mindset Matters. In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, we are honored to host a remarkable individual who has not only mastered the art of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu but has also conquered the world's highest peak – Mount Everest. Join us as Marcus and Melanie delve into the incredible journey of Cesalina Gracie. Hailing from a family that pioneered and revolutionized this martial art, Cesalina has carried the torch forward, dedicating her life to mastering the intricacies of Jiu-Jitsu. Cesalina shares insights into the mental and physical preparation required for both the Jiu-Jitsu arena and the formidable slopes of Everest. How do the principles of discipline, resilience, and focus intertwine between the mats and the mountains? Listen in and be inspired by this incredible woman of purpose and power. Whether you're a Jiu-Jitsu enthusiast, an aspiring mountaineer, or someone navigating life's challenges, Cesalina's journey offers invaluable insights that transcend boundaries. In this episode you will hear: • Back in the day, there were eighteen martial arts, different clans that had different practices in Japan, and they all ended with “Jitsu.” (7:08) • There are no bad kids. There’s bad environments for kids. (10:41) • [Jiu Jitsu] is an equalizer of emotions for kids. Jiu Jitsu is gonna honor your personality. (11:04) • Nobody needs to tell us where you’re gonna find the environment, because when you walk in, the systems that are in place teach you before you hear a word from your coach. (12:54) • [My grandfather] saw immediately what the power of that art was and the incredible responsibility that came with it. (13:45) • This [Jiu Jitsu] is a tool for self-development. I’m not here to learn how to fight. I’m here to feel powerful and feel capable without having to look powerful and look capable. (14:00) • That’s the beautiful thing about Jiu Jitsu, is that it lives on the inside. (14:21) • [My family] proved the efficiency of Jiu Jitsu to the rest of the world. (20:43) • If the whole world learns these tools, we’re gonna live in a society that is more peaceful, that is more respectful, because when you have human beings that are self-confident and compassionate, you start changing the way we interact with each other, and we start changing the way we live our lives. (21:19) • As a grown up, I understand the difference between winners and champions. (30:06) • The most important thing about Jiu Jitsu that it builds and internal constitution that is so strong that you can deal with anything in life. (38:26) • The greatest value of Jiu Jitsu is applied outside of the mat. (42:29) • Ultimately, the greatest skill you can have is awareness. (45:54) • We have to be brutally honest with ourselves as to where we’re standing in life. (55:51) • What’s actually gonna take you to the top are the mindsets that you’ve created in your journey in Jiu Jitsu. (61:20) • [While climbing Mount Everest] the one question that I did not ask myself was “should I go back to Everest Base Camp?” (63:35) • Another part that was really hard [while climbing Mount Everest] was when I saw dead bodies in the mountain for the first time. (63:47) • I hope everyone gets to experience something in their lives that they have a hard time describing. (72:22) • When I got back to base camp, I immediately called my family, because I didn’t tell anybody I was climbing Mount Everest. (82:21) • Champions are still champions even when they lose. (87:27) • When you have confidence in yourself, you solve so many problems. (118:28) Support Cesalina: - IG: cesagracie - https://cesalina.com/ Support TNQ - IG: team_neverquit , marcusluttrell , melanieluttrell , huntero13 - https://www.patreon.com/teamneverquit Sponsors: - masterclass.com/TNQ - Prizepicks (TNQ) - Dripdrop.com/TNQ - meetfabiric.com/TNQ - cargurus.com/TNQ - armslist.com/TNQ - partnersinbuilding.com - Navyfederal.org - - You can find Cremo's new line of antiperspirants and deodorants at Target or Target.com - - PXGapparel.com/TNQ - bruntworkwear.com/TNQ - Selectquote.com/TNQ - Groundnews.com/TNQ - You can find Cremo's new line of antiperspirants and deodorants at Target or Target.com - shipsticks.com/TNQ - Robinhood.com/gold - strawberry.me/TNQ - stopboxusa.com {TNQ} - ghostbed.com/TNQ [TNQ] - kalshi.com/TNQ - joinbilt.com/TNQ - Tonal.com [TNQ] - greenlight.com/TNQ - PDSDebt.com/TNQ - drinkAG1.com/TNQ - Shadyrays.com [TNQ] - qualialife.com/TNQ [TNQ] - Hims.com/TNQ - Shopify.com/TNQ - Aura.com/TNQ - Policygenius.com - TAKELEAN.com [TNQ] - usejoymode.com [TNQ]
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