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Sustainable Nation

By: Josh Prigge: CEO of Sustridge Sustainability Consulting
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The Sustainable Nation Podcast delivers interviews with global leaders in sustainability and ESG. Our goal is to provide sustainability and ESG professionals, business leaders, academics, government officials and anyone interested in joining the sustainability revolution, with information and insights from the world's most inspiring change-makers. Earth Sciences Economics Science
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  • Jim Greffet - Vice President of Sustainability at Eli Lilly and Company
    Jul 14 2025
    Jim has led ESG efforts at Eli Lilly since September 2020. In this capacity, he oversees implementation of Lilly ESG strategy, has responsibility for coordinating ESG-related communications, and organizing and leading ESG stakeholder interactions. In a significant advancement of Lilly’s approach, Jim led the development of Lilly’s ESG portal, a comprehensive source for ESG strategy, goals and results. Jim also chairs the ESG Governance Committee at Lilly, which is a central body for development and execution of ESG priorities and communication to the Executive Committee and Board of Directors. Prior to his current role, Jim spent two years as a loaned executive to Elanco Animal Health, which was spun out of Lilly in an IPO in 2018. Jim served as the Vice President of Investor Relations at Elanco. He was responsible for leading all interactions with Sell-Side Analysts and Buy-Side Investors, including preparation of Earnings materials, participation in Investor Conferences, Non Deal Roadshows and investor visits to Elanco Headquarters. He conducted investor outreach and targeting to build understanding of the Elanco investment thesis. He worked closely with External Communications to provide consistent external dialogue and to prepare Elanco Senior Executives on key topics and messaging on relevant issues. In 2020, Jim was ranked the number one IR leader for mid-cap pharmaceuticals by Institutional Investor. Prior to the role at Elanco, Jim spent 18 years at Lilly, holding numerous positions of increasing responsibility, including an assignment in Corporate Business Development, managing Lilly’s Venture Capital portfolio. Jim has also served as the Chief Financial Officer of Lilly Canada, Senior Director of Finance for Lilly Research Laboratories, Manager of Investor Relations, Manager of Treasury Planning and Strategy, Senior Human Resources Representative and Senior Financial Analyst. Prior to joining Lilly, Mr. Greffet was a Consulting Manager for KPMG Consulting in Indianapolis, Indiana and St. Louis, Missouri. Jim Joins Sustainable Nation to Discuss: Eli Lilly’s Approach to ESGLilly’s 30 by 30 initiative to improve healthcare for 30 million people by 2030Progress toward goals and targets without the use of carbon offsetsAdvice and recommendations for sustainability professionals Jim’s Final Five Questions Responses: What is one piece of advice you would give other sustainability professionals that might help them in their careers? Two words. Be pragmatic. This was a theme that came up in our conversation. There's the lunatic fringe on everything, and certainly in this space, on both ends of the spectrum. Tie your sustainability work to the purpose of your organization, be pragmatic, think in common sense terms, and you'll make a whole lot more progress. What are you most excited about right now in the world of sustainability? In the short four and a half years, this world has changed a lot. I think when I first came into it, it was sporadic, voluntary reporting by organizations, maybe a little bit of ‘accentuate the positive.’ It evolved into more rigorous and disciplined financial reporting. Over the last 18 months or so, I think we've seen the heavy hand of regulation start to come about, especially in Europe, which creates a lot more overhead. I think all of us would rather deploy our energy and resources to doing things than reporting about them. So to the exciting part, I now think we're starting to see a little bit more sensibility prevail in some of these regulations, maybe lifting the heavy hand of regulation a little bit so that we can have consistent, rigorous, well constructed reporting that's doable and doesn't take us away from the mission that we have in front of us. I'm optimistic and excited that we're going to land in a spot that's doing the right thing for the right reasons, consuming the right amount of energy. What is one book you'd recommend sustainability professionals read? George Seraphim, Purpose + Profit. He's a Harvard Business professor and he taught, you can see from the name of that book, Purpose plus Profit. It takes this pragmatic view of why sustainability can help you run your business better, not just be a fringe idea that's detached from what the business is supposed to do. What are some of your favorite resources or tools that really help you in your work? I'll give one shout out. Brian Matt with the New York Stock Exchange puts out an email each Friday called the ESG Top five. It's the top five sustainability topics of the week. He commits that it's a two minute read. If you get interested, it's going to be more than a two minute read, but you can certainly get the headlines in two minutes. There's certain emails that I can't delete fast enough. That's one that I open every time and I always learn something out of it. Where can our listeners go to learn more about you and the work being done at Eli Lilly? ...
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    30 mins
  • Suzanne Lindsay-Walker - Vice President, Sustainability at Novelis
    Jun 30 2025

    Suzanne Lindsay-Walker is Vice President, Sustainability, for Novelis Inc. In this role, Suzanne leads the development and implementation of the company’s global sustainability strategy and vision to achieve net carbon neutrality by 2050. She is also responsible for Novelis’ Corporate Social Responsibility efforts.

    Suzanne joined Novelis in May 2021. Prior to Novelis, Suzanne was the Chief Sustainability Officer and Vice President of Environmental Affairs for UPS. In this position, she was responsible for driving solutions and delivering results to achieve UPS’s sustainability goals, as well as developing the company’s forward-looking sustainability strategy.

    Before UPS, Suzanne held positions of increasing responsibility in sustainability at Brambles USA, The Kroger Co. and PetSmart. She began her career as a civil engineer, focused on land development for retail and commercial clients.

    Suzanne holds a bachelor’s degree in civil engineering from Lawrence Technological University in Southfield, Michigan.

    Suzanne Joins Sustainable Nation to Discuss:

    • Novelis’ circular business model as the world’s largest aluminum recycler
    • Novelis’ 3x30 sustainability strategy
    • Collaboration and stakeholder engagement internally and externally
    • Advice and recommendations for sustainability professionals

    Suzanne Final Five Questions Responses:

    What is one piece of advice you would give other sustainability professionals that might help them in their careers?

    I would say when you hear “no,” and you will hear no often, take it as “no, not right now.” What I found in my career is that some good ideas usually take six months to a year or even more to seed, but keep at it. Keep planting the seeds, keep watering them, because business cases and attitudes will evolve over time. I'm a bit of a bulldog, and I don't let things die, so I'll just keep pounding away at things until I can find an opening. Sometimes you just have to be patient, but keep at it.

    What are you most excited about right now in the world of sustainability?

    How many opportunities there are in this space, how many jobs are available, and opportunities for young people to drive positive impact in their everyday work lives. I think that so much of what I see coming into the workforce is people that want to work for a company where they can do just that. There's so many jobs available, which I think is amazing. That, to me, is exciting because we need as many advocates and people that want to drive that positive impact as we can get, because we have a long way to go before 2050 hits.

    What is one book you would recommend sustainability leaders read?

    One that I read early on and it's kind of old school, but it was Strategy for Sustainability by Adam Werbach. He crystallized the business of sustainability in a very real way for me at a time when I worked at Kroger, when I was trying to think through the strategy there. The examples and things that he brought together, I think at its highest level, is still a frame that can work today. That's many, many years ago, but it's always one that I go back to.

    What are some of your favorite resources or tools that really help you in your work?

    I get a lot of daily digests and updates from Trellis, I get all the digests from WBCSD, WEF. I try to consume as much as I can in those formats because you do have to have a job to do, but I also like to keep a pulse on what's going on. I find that having that stuff delivered to you on a daily basis allows me to kind of keep the pulse of what's going on, and I enjoy reading them.

    Where can our listeners go to learn more about you and the work being done at Novelis?

    I would love for people to check out our 2024 sustainability report. We launched it several months ago, but it really tries to tell all the good stories and the proof points of what we're trying to accomplish here. Novelis.com is where you can find it.

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    32 mins
  • Andrew Savage - Vice President of Sustainability at Lime
    Jun 4 2025

    Andrew started his career working in public policy and communications. He served as Deputy Chief of Staff & Legislative Director for Congressman Peter Welch in the US House of Representatives when Congress passed the only sweeping climate legislation to date. Leaving public government, Andrew spent six years working in the solar energy, renewables, and transportation sectors. During this time, Andrew became increasingly interested in how shared electrified transportation could move the needle on carbon emissions. With a passion for urban mobility and sustainability, Andrew was a founding team member at Lime. He initially focused on new market development, government relations, and policy strategy for the company. Today, Andrew and Lime have grown tremendously. Lime has logged over 200 million trips and expanded globally. Andrew now serves as the Head of Sustainability, managing Lime's zero-emission commitments, sustainability goals, and climate-focused initiatives.

    Andrew Joins Sustainable Nation to Discuss:

    • Successful business growth while reducing carbon emissions
    • Lime’s circular economy and lifespan extension practices
    • Considering scope 4 emissions
    • Advice and recommendations for sustainability professionals

    Andrew’s Final Five Questions Responses:

    What is one piece of advice you would give other sustainability professionals that might help them in their careers?

    To be humble. I tend to be fairly reluctant to be saying other companies should be doing as we do, or be doing X, Y or Z, or that we're setting an example for the industry, simply because every business is different. I'd much rather be in a more humble position of doing what we can, knowing that there's always more to do, and trying to walk the walk instead of talking the talk.

    What are you most excited about right now in the world of sustainability?

    Back to circular economy. I really like some of the stuff that I'm seeing around technology driven circular economy innovations. Where I'm seeing the extraction of high value materials from things like motors, for example. I think that to be able to bring high value materials back into the economy without having to totally reprocess them or look at raw materials is incredibly exciting.

    What is one book you would recommend sustainability leaders read?

    A classic here, but The End of Nature by Bill McKibben. It was the foundational book on climate change and he was a New Yorker writer before penning that book, but he was the first person to write about climate change for the popular audience. It's just such an interesting perspective to see one, how long ago he wrote that, and two, the way he presented it to the public in a way that was truly innovative for its time, and obviously quite right in its foundation in terms of its science and what we're living through today.

    What are some of your favorite resources or tools that really help you in your work?

    One is tapping the expertise within our own organization. I think people often look fully externally as a resource, and they're often barraged by outside resources. I've found that looking within the team, whether it's our logistics team, our hardware team, our supply chain team, these are folks that are living day to day in the work, and if they're given the right tools and asked the right questions, they can be incredibly, incredibly helpful. The second, just the opposite of what I just shared from looking internally, looking externally towards folks that have an expertise in carbon is incredibly important. We've leveraged and used Opterra for our carbon services and our carbon inventory work. That's an example where they have an expertise and in many ways are an outsourced sustainability arm of the company where we just don't have the internal capacity. So, on one hand looking externally and the other hand looking internally, is incredibly valuable.

    Where can our listeners go to learn more about you and the work being done at Lime?

    One thing that I'm really excited about is we just released a carbon roadmap on Lime sustainability page. I'm also reasonably active on LinkedIn.

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    31 mins

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