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The Other Pod with Chloe Aftel

The Other Pod with Chloe Aftel

By: Chloe Aftel
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 The Other Pod is the latest venture from acclaimed visual artist Chloe Aftel. With a long career of pushing boundaries and exposing all the messy in-betweens of society, Chloe now takes her lens to a deeper level through The Other Pod.

Join Chloe for monthly inquisitions into the lives of famed creatives, activists, philosophers, writers, scholars, and more.

From rapper/activist Killer Mike to feminist philosopher Serene Khader, Chloe’s uniquely curious and empathetic way of connecting with guests furthers the throughline of all her work: how gender, identity, and sexuality create works of meaning.

With each new episode profiling unique identities and careers, Chloe bravely looks at the way self-expression can lead to freedom, how being an outsider is more universal than may appear, and what tangible strategies we can invoke in pursuit of something greater than the status quo.

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Episodes
  • Episode 32 — Dr. Cristina Beltrán Talks Latinx Politics, Charlie Kirk's Murder, and Building Anti-Supremacist Futures in Modern-Day America

    Episode 32 — Dr. Cristina Beltrán Talks Latinx Politics, Charlie Kirk's Murder, and Building Anti-Supremacist Futures in Modern-Day America
    Oct 1 2025
    Author and Associate Professor at New York University working in Latinx, race and gender, plus political theory, Dr. Cristina Beltrán joins host Chloe Aftel for a fascinating dive into modern America. Speaking on her upbringing, academic theories, and U.S. politics spanning the last forty years, Professor Beltrán breaks down myriad political/social concepts found within politics and, more broadly, the fabric of America. From the idea of layered colonialisms to Ezra Klein's The New York Times opinion piece on Charlie Kirk's murder, Beltrán and Aftel pick apart organizing tactics on the left and right, the politics of persuasion, and so-called logics of elimination. Find out what all of these topics entail and more in this new Other episode!


    Highlights:
    • Beltrán breaks down how the Latinx identity does not denote a specific race
    • Implications and explanations of a modern-day zero-sum scarcity logic within the current U.S. landscape
    • Aftel and Beltrán speak at length regarding Charlie Kirk's murder and immediate aftermath, from public reaction to media coverage of the incident
    • Ongoing struggles of 'the logics of elimination' and what that means
    • Discussion of and thinking seriously about alienating certain groups of people versus creation a broad anti-fascist opposition
    • The right's policing of America's story and how the left needs to reframe their own narrative, too
    • What are 'politics of persuasion' and how do we envision new and creative strategies around organizing the masses


    Biographies:

    Cristina Beltrán, Ph.D., is a NYU Associate Professor and award-winning author as well as political theorist. Born to parents of Mexican descent, Beltrán grew up in Southern California and New Mexico, obtaining a Doctorate in Political Science from Rutgers University and B.A. in Politics from University of California at Santa Cruz. Select titles include her 2020 book, Cruelty as Citizenship and the upcoming Latinos and Other Uncertainties. Her books have won awards from the American Political Science Association and the Casa de Las Americas Literary Prize for the Best Book in Studies of Latinos in the United States.

    Chloe Aftel has spent her career working in commercial photography, photojournalism, and film. She’s an established name in modern photography with work featured in The New York Times, Mother Jones, Playboy, Dazed & Confused, Vogue Germany, The Hollywood Reporter, The Wall Street Journal, Vogue Italia, Vanity Fair, Rolling Stone, Teen Vogue, and more. Aftel has photographed victims of sexual violence, reported on COVID 19's impact on the trans community, and gained access as the first reporter in COVID wards of the West Coast’s hardest-hit hospitals. She has covered underground abortion providers, the impact of gender pronouns on daily life, and clergy abuse. Aftel's first book, Outside & In Between, is an award-winning anthology covering gender non-conforming people across the United States.

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    1 hr and 49 mins
  • The New York Times Columnist Jamelle Bouie Takes on the Lightning Round!

    The New York Times Columnist Jamelle Bouie Takes on the Lightning Round!
    Sep 15 2025
    Welcome to our 'Lightning Round' with Other podcast guest and writer Jamelle Bouie! The idea is to ask questions that he — and hopefully you — don't expect, and that the answers will be as equally interesting and hopefully amusing. Please enjoy.


    Biographies:

    Jamelle Bouie is a writer, photographer, and columnist for The New York Times. Obtaining degrees in political plus social thought and government from the University of Virginia in 2009, Bouie started out at The American Prospect magazine. Also writing for The Daily Beast early in his career, Bouie became Slate magazine's chief political correspondent in 2014 before working with the Times starting in 2019. An accomplished writer and photographer, Jamelle Bouie received 2021's Hillman Prize for Opinion & Analysis Journalism followed by an election into the American Academy of Arts and Sciences in 2024. You can find his work on Instagram and TikTok, his blog, plus as co host of Unclear and Present Danger, a podcast exploring 90s thrillers from a post-Cold War perspective.

    Chloe Aftel has spent her career working in commercial photography, photojournalism, and film. She’s an established name in modern photography with work featured in The New York Times, Mother Jones, Playboy, Dazed & Confused, Vogue Germany, The Hollywood Reporter, The Wall Street Journal, Vogue Italia, Vanity Fair, Rolling Stone, Teen Vogue, and more. Aftel has photographed victims of sexual violence, reported on COVID 19's impact on the trans community, and gained access as the first reporter in COVID wards of the West Coast’s hardest-hit hospitals. She has covered underground abortion providers, the impact of gender pronouns on daily life, and clergy abuse. Aftel's first book, Outside & In Between, is an award-winning anthology covering gender non-conforming people across the United States.

    Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-other-pod-with-chloe-aftel--6567483/support.
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    11 mins
  • Episode 31 — The New York Times Columnist Jamelle Bouie on Writing, Reporting, and Politics in an Uncertain Era

    Episode 31 — The New York Times Columnist Jamelle Bouie on Writing, Reporting, and Politics in an Uncertain Era
    Sep 1 2025
    Hillman Prize for Opinion & Analysis winner, The New York Times columnist, and prolific photographer, Jamelle Bouie is Other's latest guest in discussion with host Chloe Aftel. From The 1619 Project: A New Origin Story to covering Trump-era politics and policies through an historical lens, Bouie lets us in on his upbringing, career, and creative processes in this insightful interview. Unafraid to set the record straight, listeners learn about how Bouie shapes both his writing and reporting. Come join us in hearing this guest's fascinating perspective on current American politics and meeting audiences where they're at; plus stick around for the lighting round in a few weeks where Bouie discusses various unexpected subjects ranging from amazing insults to breakfast cereal!


    Highlights:
    • Bouie shares his true place of birth (and it's not Virginia Beach, contrary to a certain Wikipedia page!) as well as how his initial experiences shaped him and his understanding of America
    • His journey from postgraduate Internet blogger to being a paid writer after originally considering law school
    • Bouie's longstanding and deep interest in 18th century American history and the early U.S. political period
    • Helping audiences understand and contextualize the U.S.'s current political period within its overall history, and being 'neutral' as a journalist versus what this moment demands regarding aggressively advocating for the dissemination of factual information
    • Helping the Times with their social media after leaning into vertical video and the world of algorithms
    • The collaborative nature of Bouie's work, the story behind his oratory quality of writing, and the details of crafting a piece including breaking down recent work

    Biographies:

    Jamelle Bouie is a writer, photographer, and columnist for The New York Times. Obtaining degrees in political plus social thought and government from the University of Virginia in 2009, Bouie started out at The American Prospect magazine. Also writing for The Daily Beast early in his career, Bouie became Slate magazine's chief political correspondent in 2014 before working with the Times starting in 2019. An accomplished writer and photographer, Jamelle Bouie received 2021's Hillman Prize for Opinion & Analysis Journalism followed by an election into the American Academy of Arts and Sciences in 2024. You can find his work on Instagram and TikTok, his blog, plus as co host of Unclear and Present Danger, a podcast exploring 90s thrillers from a post-Cold War perspective.

    Chloe Aftel has spent her career working in commercial photography, photojournalism, and film. She’s an established name in modern photography with work featured in The New York Times, Mother Jones, Playboy, Dazed & Confused, Vogue Germany, The Hollywood Reporter, The Wall Street Journal, Vogue Italia, Vanity Fair, Rolling Stone, Teen Vogue, and more. Aftel has photographed victims of sexual violence, reported on COVID 19's impact on the trans community, and gained access as the first reporter in COVID wards of the West Coast’s hardest-hit hospitals. She has covered underground abortion providers, the impact of gender pronouns on daily life, and clergy abuse. Aftel's first book, Outside & In Between, is an award-winning anthology covering gender non-conforming people across the United States.

    Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-other-pod-with-chloe-aftel--6567483/support.
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    1 hr and 9 mins
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