Podcast host Meia Nouwens is joined by IISS experts Veerle Nouwens, Morgan Michaels and Darshana Baruah to reflect on the 22nd IISS Shangri-La Dialogue, which was held on 30 May–1 June 2025.

Meia, Veerle, Morgan and Darshana discuss key takeaways and topics include:

• US Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and his landmark speech on the US’ new ambitions for the Indo-Pacific;
• President Macron’s proposal for greater European-Asian engagement;
• Prime Minister Dato’ Seri Anwar Bin Ibrahim's call for shared purpose and cooperation in order to prevent further fracturing of the international order and support peace and stability; and
• how the wider Indo-Pacific dynamics featured in this year’s Shangri-La Dialogue, such as the security priorities of Pacific Island states and the ongoing conflict in Myanmar.

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Date of Recording: 3 June 2025

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In this Sounds Strategic episode, podcast host Meia Nouwens is joined by Veerle Nouwens, Evan A. Laksmana and Nick Childs to discuss the upcoming 22nd IISS Shangri La Dialogue, which will be held in Singapore from 30 May–1 June.

This year’s dialogue is held against the backdrop of Russia’s ongoing war of aggression against Ukraine, an intense US trade and tariff war with China, heightened tensions between India and Pakistan, and ongoing military modernisation across the Asia Pacific.

Key themes explored include

• the impact of great power competition on small and medium powers in the region;
• strategies to manage nuclear and conventional proliferation risks;
• and the evolving defence challenges in critical domains such as undersea warfare, cyber security and outer space.

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Date of Recording: 16 May 2025

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Europe’s defence posture is evolving rapidly — but is the pace of change sustainable? In this episode, IISS experts examine global and regional defence spending trends, the EU’s emerging industrial initiatives and the implications of Germany’s policy shift.

Host Meia Nouwens is joined by Fenella McGerty, Ester Sabatino and Ben Schreer to discuss whether current trends represent a pivot in European strategic capability or if policy ambition will be constrained by economic and political realities.

Key themes include:

• Drivers behind global and European defence spending increases
• The EU’s ReArm Europe
• Constraints on joint procurement and industrial scalability
• Germany’s budget shift and prospects for sustained leadership
• Geopolitical uncertainties and potential disruptors

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Date of Recording: 24 March 2025

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