Often finding a gap in the market means putting time into an idea that doesn't work to find the one that does. Episode 5 of Sound Leader I chatted to Charlotte about trying things that lead to your biggest idea, knowing when to quit what isn't working and having resilience to try again. This is how Charlotte co-created Ellevate Management, a resource platform in virtual artist management. Hear about Charlotte's learnings as well as how she is building her business working with artists in a different way at the beginning of their career.

Sound Leader is back with a killer episode featuring Ella Hartley from Planet Fans.

I met Ella on a panel talking about ways to make things fairer in the live industry. With a wealth of experience, Ella has pivoted from success in corporate to now being part of a rapidly growing sector of the music tech industry working with artists on first party data making stronger connections to fans disrupting how the industry has previously worked with data.

When you disrupt you have to bring people along with you. So from a leadership perspective, I wanted to dive into how Ella leads and galvanises her team to do this in a newly competitive market that has often stuck with the status quo.

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Today on Sound Leader I interview two leading women from Meta who’ve formed a formidable team providing solutions for the major labels across their catalog. Vanessa is no stranger to the music business with an impeccable career across the digital landscape and she does that supporting women who work with her including Natalie who she invited along to the Podcast to get her views on leadership too. We spoke about risk taking, technology and it just so happens we all have a connection to Liverpool.