In this episode I explore the controversial topic of solar geoengineering with Dr. Holly Jean Buck, and Dr. Will Burns, two of the most thorough and interesting thinkers out there when it comes to the topic. Specifically they talk me through the question of “should we ban SRM research”.

There’s a lot these two experts disagree on about SRM, and their back and forth really expanded my thinking on the topic. Together, we break down what SRM is, how it might work, and the different approaches within SRM, such as stratospheric aerosol injection and marine cloud brightening.

This episode provides a nuanced look at SRM as part of the climate action toolkit, I hope it helps you think critically about the role it might play, as it did for me.

Episode Resources

Holly’s Article on SRM research

SRM Non-Use Agreement

White House statement on SRM (2023)

Wil’s work on the SRM research ecosystem

Alameda, California Suspends MCB Experiment

Guest-Suggested Articles-

Wil

Clive Hamilton- Geoengineering and the Politics of Science

Holly’s Book After Geoengineering

Holly

Taiwo and Talati- Who are the Engineers?

Wiley Carr- Vulnerable Population’s Perspectives on Climate Engineering

Timestamps

01:26 Urgency of SRM

02:25 Introducing Holly and Will

22:06 State of SRM Research

29:39 Global Players in SRM

43:12 Rules in SRM Governance

46:34 Challenges of Private Sector Involvement

55:22 Conspiracy Theories and Public Perception

01:04:00 Future Prospects

01:07:02 Lightning Round

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