Episodes

  • Do private members clubs still matter in British politics?
    May 11 2025

    Private members clubs once played a crucial role in British politics, even acting as the organising hubs of the Conservative and Liberal parties. For centuries, politicians of every shade have drunk, dined and gossiped together behind the closed doors of London clubs. But do they still? And do clubs still influence our politics? In this week's episode, Lee and Richard tackle that question and identify the one post-war prime minister who, it seems, has never been a member of any club.

    In this episode, the following books are mentioned:

    'Ten Years to save the West' by Liz Truss.

    'Active and Passive Citizens' by Richard Tuck.

    If you are interested in learning more about clubs, we also recommend:

    'Behind Closed Doors' by Seth Thévoz.

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    Since Attlee & Churchill is the podcast all about post-war British political history, hosted by:

    Lee David Evans
    is an historian of the Conservative Party and the John Ramsden Fellow at the Mile End Institute, Queen Mary, University of London. He is on social media @LeeDavidEvansUK.

    Richard Johnson is a Senior Lecturer at Queen Mary, University of London, and among his other areas of expertise is an historian of the Labour Party. He tweets at @richardmarcj.

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    1 hr and 3 mins
  • Which foreign leaders should be invited to address Parliament?
    May 5 2025

    Since the end of WWII, an increasing number of foreign leaders have been invited to address MPs and peers - whether in Westminster Hall, the Royal Gallery or elsewhere in Parliament. In 2017 and again today, a debate raged about whether Donald Trump should be among them. Lee and Richard look back on the history of foreign leaders addressing Parliament and consider whether it would be reasonable for Trump to be prevented from making an address to Parliament.

    in this episode, the following books are mentioned:

    'Vassal State: How America Runs Britain' by Angus Hanton. Available at: https://amzn.to/4lWVBMF

    'The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness' by Jonathan Haidt. Available at: https://amzn.to/4cZ29WO

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    Since Attlee & Churchill is the podcast all about post-war British political history, hosted by:

    Lee David Evans
    is an historian of the Conservative Party and the John Ramsden Fellow at the Mile End Institute, Queen Mary, University of London. He is on social media @LeeDavidEvansUK.

    Richard Johnson is a Senior Lecturer at Queen Mary, University of London, and among his other areas of expertise is an historian of the Labour Party. He tweets at @richardmarcj.

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    59 mins
  • Are prime ministerial resignation honours an embarrassment?
    Apr 27 2025

    Prime ministerial resignation honours - first used in 1895 and regularly issued since - have been a perennial embarrassment for outgoing prime ministers. In this episode, Richard and Lee look back on the post-war lists, from Churchill to Sunak, Attlee to Brown, and consider who they chose to honour, why, and whether it harmed their reputation and legacy.

    In this episode, the following books are mentioned:

    'Priests de la Resistance!: The loose canons who fought Fascism in the twentieth century' by The Revd Fergus Butler-Gaillie. Available at: https://amzn.to/42xHFRq

    'Polarized by Degrees' by by Matt Grossmann & David A. Hopkins. Available at: https://amzn.to/4cNC4d7

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    Since Attlee & Churchill is the podcast all about post-war British political history, hosted by:

    Lee David Evans
    is an historian of the Conservative Party and the John Ramsden Fellow at the Mile End Institute, Queen Mary, University of London. He is on social media @LeeDavidEvansUK.

    Richard Johnson is a Senior Lecturer at Queen Mary, University of London, and among his other areas of expertise is an historian of the Labour Party. He tweets at @richardmarcj.

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    1 hr and 4 mins
  • Could 'English Socialism' save the Labour Party?
    Apr 20 2025

    The ideas underpinning English socialism go back to before the Norman Conquest, but they have been strangely absent from the Labour Party in recent years. In this week's episode, Lee and Richard discuss the concept of English socialism - what it is, where it comes from, how its distinct (but compatible) with British socialism, and why its values could be a recipe for the rejuvenation of the Labour Party today.

    In this podcast, the following articles and books are mentioned:

    'An American Sissy' by Gore Vidal. Available at: https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1981/08/13/an-american-sissy/

    'Hope and Glory' by Peter Clarke. Available at: https://amzn.to/42jwETM

    'George Lansbury: At the Heart of Old Labour' by John Shepherd. Available at: https://amzn.to/3GjOuxi

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    Since Attlee & Churchill is the podcast all about post-war British political history, hosted by:

    Lee David Evans
    is an historian of the Conservative Party and the John Ramsden Fellow at the Mile End Institute, Queen Mary, University of London. He is on social media @LeeDavidEvansUK.

    Richard Johnson is a Senior Lecturer at Queen Mary, University of London, and among his other areas of expertise is an historian of the Labour Party. He tweets at @richardmarcj.

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    57 mins
  • Ernest Marples MP - a visionary, a scoundrel, or both?
    Apr 13 2025

    Few people today can recall the man who launched premium bonds, gave us the motorway network, or invited Dr Beeching to swing his axe on the United Kingdom's railway network. It was Ernest Marples, a post-war Conservative MP and ally of Harold Macmillan. Marples has a claim to be one of the most consequential ministers of the 1951-64 Conservative governments, but his personal immorality and financial failings left him off the frontbench, out of the Commons, and soon fleeing the taxman in Monaco. Lee and Richard discuss his sensational but consequential political career in this podcast.

    In this podcast, the following books are mentioned:

    'The Carlton Club 1832-2007' by Charles Petrie and Alistair Lexden.

    'The False Promise of Liberal Order: Nostalgia, Delusion, and the Rise of Trump' by Patrick Porter. Available at: https://amzn.to/43LJBXz

    You can also read more about Ernest Marples, among other topics, on the Since Attlee & Churchill Substack here: https://www.sinceattleeandchurchill.com/

    Support the show

    Since Attlee & Churchill is the podcast all about post-war British political history, hosted by:

    Lee David Evans
    is an historian of the Conservative Party and the John Ramsden Fellow at the Mile End Institute, Queen Mary, University of London. He is on social media @LeeDavidEvansUK.

    Richard Johnson is a Senior Lecturer at Queen Mary, University of London, and among his other areas of expertise is an historian of the Labour Party. He tweets at @richardmarcj.

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    52 mins
  • What is the socialist case for monarchy?
    Apr 6 2025

    For the past century, many of the most prominent left-wing politicians in Britain, especially Labour leaders, have judged that the institution of monarchy is compatible with their vision of a more equal Britain. Why? In this episode, Richard and Lee discuss the socialist case for monarchy, from the earliest days of the Labour Party right up to the present day. Richard, a socialist himself, makes the fascinating argument that the monarchy is a pre-capitalist institution which sits outside of what socialists want to achieve.

    In this episode, the following books are mentioned:

    'Britain in Pictures: The Conservative Party (122) by Nigel Birch.

    'The First Brexiteer: The Diaries of Sir Neil Marten, 1970-79' edited by Tim Aker. Available at: https://amzn.to/4lyqbfk

    Support the show

    Since Attlee & Churchill is the podcast all about post-war British political history, hosted by:

    Lee David Evans
    is an historian of the Conservative Party and the John Ramsden Fellow at the Mile End Institute, Queen Mary, University of London. He is on social media @LeeDavidEvansUK.

    Richard Johnson is a Senior Lecturer at Queen Mary, University of London, and among his other areas of expertise is an historian of the Labour Party. He tweets at @richardmarcj.

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    59 mins
  • Was this the most explosive Tory conference ever?
    Mar 30 2025

    In 1963, Harold Macmillan resigned as prime minister and triggered one of the most dramatic fights for the Tory leadership in modern history. Four men jockeyed for position at the party's annual conference in Blackpool, with an unassuming fourteenth earl eventually coming out on top. Why did Macmillan resign? Who should have succeeded him? And did the 1964 general election, which brought Harold Wilson to power, get decided by these combustible events a year earlier? That's the theme of this week's podcast.

    In this podcast, the following talks and books are mentioned:

    'The Rule of Law: at home, abroad – and in Westminster' by Lord Wolfson. Available at: https://policyexchange.org.uk/events/the-rule-of-law-at-home-abroad-and-in-westminster/

    'People Without Power: the war on populism and the fight for democracy' by Thomas Frank. Available at: https://amzn.to/43yImuS

    'Public Servant, Secret Agent: The elusive life and violent death of Airey Neave' by Paul Routledge. Available at: https://amzn.to/4hRXZ3G


    Support the show

    Since Attlee & Churchill is the podcast all about post-war British political history, hosted by:

    Lee David Evans
    is an historian of the Conservative Party and the John Ramsden Fellow at the Mile End Institute, Queen Mary, University of London. He is on social media @LeeDavidEvansUK.

    Richard Johnson is a Senior Lecturer at Queen Mary, University of London, and among his other areas of expertise is an historian of the Labour Party. He tweets at @richardmarcj.

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    1 hr and 2 mins
  • What lessons can be learned from a political maverick?
    Mar 23 2025

    For almost 40 years, Austin Mitchell was a staple of the House of Commons. At the beginning of his career, he was an up-and-coming star with a successful media career. Yet for the vast majority of his time as an MP, he was overlooked by successive leaders and confined to the backbenches. In this episode, Richard and Lee look back on Mitchell's career and consider what lessons can be learned from the life of a political maverick.

    In this episode, the following books are mentioned:

    'Could it Happen Here? The Day a Prime Minister Refuses to Resign' by Peter Hennessy and Andrew Blick. Available at: https://amzn.to/4iTyD6N

    'Trump, the Administrative Presidency, and Federalism' by Frank Thompson, Kenneth Wong, and Barry Rabe. Available at: https://amzn.to/4iBbhD1

    Support the show

    Since Attlee & Churchill is the podcast all about post-war British political history, hosted by:

    Lee David Evans
    is an historian of the Conservative Party and the John Ramsden Fellow at the Mile End Institute, Queen Mary, University of London. He is on social media @LeeDavidEvansUK.

    Richard Johnson is a Senior Lecturer at Queen Mary, University of London, and among his other areas of expertise is an historian of the Labour Party. He tweets at @richardmarcj.

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    57 mins