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In this episode of the Product Agility Podcast, host Ben Maynard tackles one of the most misunderstood and overlooked challenges in scaling product organisations: the persistent misalignment between product and technology teams.

Ben explores how chaos at scale is often a design flaw, not a team flaw — a consequence of mismatched incentives, unclear operating models, and siloed roadmaps that leave engineering and product pulling in opposite directions.

Through personal experience, practical insight, and a healthy dose of provocation, Ben lays out what it really takes to achieve harmony between CPOs and CTOs, and why true alignment doesn't kill autonomy — it unlocks it.

Topics include:

• Why most scaling efforts fail due to organisational architecture, not execution
• The signs your product and tech teams are scaling dysfunction, not value
• The “invisible war” between product outcomes and engineering throughput
• How to spot early misalignment and avoid bloated governance
• Practical strategies for shared roadmaps, operating models, and unified OKRs
• How platform teams can be internal product teams — not invisible bottlenecks
• Why alignment is the secret weapon for autonomy, clarity, and sustainable scale

Whether you’re a CPO, CTO, transformation leader or coach of those navigating growth and complexity, this episode offers a candid, systems-thinking perspective on scaling with intention — and without the chaos.

Host Bio

Ben is a seasoned expert in product agility coaching, unleashing the potential of people and products. With over a decade of experience, his focus now is product-led growth & agility in organisations of all sizes.

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