Episode Summary (Long)

In this episode, Marc and Emily kick off a new part of Season 2—interviewing some of the people they deeply admire. Before bringing on guests, they decided to run through the questions themselves to see what comes up.

They each share how they’d describe themselves, what three words capture their work, what they love most about what they do, and what they’re still figuring out. Topics range from email list management and marketing fatigue to physical health, faith, aging, and what it means to start a new career in your 50s.

There’s plenty of laughter and honest reflection, plus some real talk about entrepreneurship, burnout, play, and the weird transitions of midlife. Whether you're in a career shift, navigating new rhythms, or wondering if you'll ever figure out marketing platforms, this conversation will feel familiar.

Key Takeaways

• Even seasoned professionals are still figuring things out—especially when the tools and platforms keep changing.
• Shifting careers later in life comes with new constraints—but also new clarity.
• Connection, creativity, and curiosity keep showing up as core values in both personal and professional work.
• Making space for play (from local meetups to solo hikes) adds resilience to busy lives.
• Retirement isn’t the goal—it’s more about shaping your next chapter with purpose.

Quote Highlights

“I’m still figuring out Zoho Campaigns... and I’ve been emailing people since 1999.” – Marc
“I feel like I’ve had to make an alliance with my physical body.” – Emily
“There’s a kind of figuring out that feels like frustration—and another kind that feels like play.” – Emily
“Even though I didn’t want to go out, I’m always glad I did.” – Marc
“If I ever do retire, I’ll probably need a strategic plan for what I’ll build next.” – Emily

Resources & Mentions

• Concord Leadership Group
• Zoho Campaigns
• SpeakerFlow (for tutorials)
• Dr. Sarah Glova (referenced during a goal-setting session)
• Pam Slim’s Your Body of Work