Episodes

  • Ep. 12: What's the Point of Being a Good Caster? (w/ School of Trout)
    Mar 5 2025

    In this episode, we talk with Todd Tanner, Brant Oswald, Pat McCabe, and Chris Elbow about improving our fly fishing in general and Todd’s School of Trout in particular. (Presented by Hatch Magazine)

    (0:00:00) Introduction

    (0:05:30) School of Trout mission and the meaning of success

    (0:09:05) Chris’s journey from beginner to enthusiast

    (0:14:40) Teaching all skill levels

    (0:24:40) Learning to cast

    (0:35:25) Tim’s “mind-blowing” casting revelation

    (0:46:00) Overcoming intimidation and sticking with it

    (1:17:50) Final thoughts

    Learn more about the guests

    School of Trout

    Todd Tanner

    Brant Oswald

    Pat McCabe

    Chris Elbow



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    1 hr and 18 mins
  • Ep. 11: The Allusion of Detail (w/ Bob White)
    Feb 9 2025

    In this episode, Bob White talks about his life as a guide, artist, writer, and destination travel host. (Presented by Hatch Magazine)

    (0:00:00) Introduction

    (0:00:20) The Copper Bob

    (0:07:20) Muskie vs Musky

    (0:10:00) Belleville, Illinois to Marine on St. Croix, Minnesota

    (0:13:00) Bob’s start as a guide

    (0:18:20) Challenges as a guide

    (00:29:30) Bob’s career as an artist

    (00:35:20) The allusion of detail

    (00:40:30) The role of storytelling in art

    (00:43:10) John Gierach

    (00:48:30) Fly sketches

    (00:52:20) The Classic Sporting Art of Bob White

    (00:55:30) Hosted trips

    (01:03:10) Advice for aspiring artists, guides, and hosts

    Learn more about Bob White

    https://www.bobwhitestudio.com

    The Classic Sporting Art of Bob White



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    1 hr and 9 mins
  • Ep. 10: If I'm Having Fun, Maybe the Reader's Having Fun (w/ Dave Karczynski)
    Oct 17 2024

    In this episode, we talk with Dave Karczynski about his new book, Calling After Water, and his life as a writer, angler, and university professor. (Presented by Hatch Magazine)

    (0:00:00) Introduction

    (0:05:00) The role of humor in writing

    (0:12:40) Musky vs muskie

    (0:15:40) The allure of musky fishing

    (0:22:30) What makes a good fishing partner?

    (0:27:20) What makes a good fishing destination?

    (0:30:30) Dave's evolution as a writer

    (0:39:10) What does it mean to write one true sentence?

    (0:43:10) Rhythm and voice in writing

    (0:47:30) Dave's evolution as an angler (From Lure to Fly)

    (0:59:20) Smallmouth: Modern Fly-Fishing Methods, Tactics, and Techniques

    (1:04:10) Rules for writing

    (1:08:15) Calling After Water

    (1:13:30) Book reading

    Learn more about Dave Karczynski

    https://davekarczynski.com



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    1 hr and 20 mins
  • Ep. 9: Perhaps It Has Something to Do with Books (w/ Bob DeMott)
    Sep 4 2024

    In this episode, we talk with Bob DeMott about his life as an English professor and a fly angler and the intersection between the two: Anglish. (Presented by Hatch Magazine.)

    (0:00:00) Introduction

    (0:02:20) Anglish

    (0:08:00) Astream: American Writers on Fly Fishing

    (0:09:20) Michael Keaton — Fly-fishing writer

    (0:12:20) The allure of fly-fishing writing

    (0:20:00) What makes an excellent fly-fishing story?

    (0:24:00) Faculty for a Department of Anglish

    (0:27:00) Bob’s start in fishing

    (0:42:30) Bob’s start in writing

    (0:53:10) Bob’s brothers of different mothers: Nick Lyons and Jim Harrison

    (1:05:00) The famous thing Thoreau didn’t say

    (1:15:50) Bob’s reading: Perhaps it has something to do with books

    Learn more about Bob DeMott

    Wikipedia

    Books



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    1 hr and 18 mins
  • Ep. 8: Things Are About to Get Even Better (w/ Steve Duda)
    Aug 9 2024

    In this episode, author, editor, and producer Steve Duda talks about his recent book, River Songs, his time as editor of The FlyFish Journal, his current position with Patagonia, the past, present, and future of fly-fishing literature, his dos and don’ts for writing, and he treats us with a reading from River Songs. (Presented by Hatch Magazine.)

    The song “Pressure Drop” performed by The Horse Puppets.

    (0:00:00) Introduction

    (0:04:00) River Songs

    (0:15:30) The FlyFish Journal

    (0:18:00) Favorite writers from Steve’s editing days

    (0:22:00) Patagonia

    (0:31:50) Past, present, and future of fly-fishing literature

    (0:38:25) Have readers changed?

    (0:40:00) Steve’s rules for writing

    (0:48:30) Writers on the Fly

    (0:52:30) Steve’s life in music

    (0:58:50) Influences

    (1:06:30) Reading: “Pressure Drop”

    Learn more about Steve Duda

    Biography

    River Songs: Mountaineers | Amazon



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    1 hr and 17 mins
  • Ep. 7: I Never Put a Bomb in a Trout Stream (w/ Nick Lyons)
    Jul 1 2024

    In this episode, the incomparable Nick Lyons talks about his life as an angler, writer, editor, and publisher, and we cover topics ranging from the stages of fly angling to how writers find “gold” in a fishing story. (Presented by Hatch Magazine.)

    (0:00:00) Introduction

    (0:03:15) Nick’s favorite fly rods

    (0:04:15) Nick’s favorite waters

    (0:05:45) Nick’s Academy Awards for angling

    (0:09:10) The stages of fly angling

    (0:16:10) Nick’s writing voice

    (0:22:50) Mt. Rushmore for fly-fishing writers

    (0:31:00) Technique books

    (0:37:45) Why so much good writing about fly fishing?

    (0:43:00) Finding the “gold” in a fishing story

    (0:49:20) Spring Creek

    (0:55:30) Learning to love fishing

    Learn more about Nick Lyons

    Wikipedia

    Books



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    58 mins
  • Ep. 6: You're Only One Cast Away From Greatness (w/ Monte Burke)
    Jun 21 2024

    In this episode, we talk with Monte Burke about his path to becoming a writer, his past, present, and future projects, the outlook for tarpon, and the role of obsession in fishing and sports. (Presented by Hatch Magazine.)

    (0:00:00) Introduction

    (0:02:20) Why so much writing about fishing?

    (0:05:50) Bad Hemingway

    (0:10:00) Monte's path to writing

    (0:18:00) Lords of the Fly

    (0:26:30) The outlook for tarpon

    (0:43:20) Nick Saban

    (0:52:40) On writing and publishing

    (0:56:10) Mt. Rushmore for fishing writing

    (1:01:40) New projects

    (1:05:40) George H. W. Bush

    Learn more about Monte Burke

    https://monteburke.com/

    Lords of the Fly

    Saban



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    1 hr and 15 mins
  • Ep. 5: Five Pounds of Sour Patch Kids (w/Michael Garrigan)
    Jun 5 2024

    In this episode, we talk with writer, poet, teacher, and fly angler Michael Garrigan about his introduction to fishing, his development as an angler and writer, his time as the resident artist in the Bob Marshall Wilderness, and we'll even talk about his favorite road candy. As a special treat, Michael will read his terrific poem, 'Liturgy of Carp Becoming a God.' (Presented by Hatch Magazine. )

    (0:00:00) Introduction

    (0:02:00) Introduction to fishing

    (0:04:30) Introduction to fly fishing (The River Why)

    (0:07:00) Education as a writer

    (0:08:25) Beginnings as a poet

    (0:09:40) Beginnings as a teacher

    (0:22:20) Poetry reading: Liturgy of Carp Becoming a God

    (0:29:20) Why so much great writing about fly fishing?

    (0:33:20) Musical inspirations

    (0:37:10) Artist in residence at Bob Marshall Wilderness

    (0:56:00) Future projects, favorite candy, road food, flies, and fish

    Learn more about Michael Garrigan:

    https://www.mgarrigan.com

    Five Pounds of Sour Patch Kids in the Montana Wilderness



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    1 hr and 7 mins