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Struggling to scale beyond $2M and stuck as the bottleneck in your own painting business? In this game-changing episode of the Profitable Painter Podcast, we sit down with Michael Cheney, who grew No Drip Painting from a side hustle into a projected $4M empire in Columbus, Ohio.

He reveals the exact leadership and hiring shifts that unlocked explosive growth, and how he’s building a self-managing company that runs without him.

You’ll learn how to:

• Hire Leaders, Not Doers: Why Michael hired a Director of Sales and Director of Production, and how it freed him to focus on vision, not daily tasks.
• Structure Sales for Scale: The 6% commission + 50% GP threshold that keeps his sales team aligned with profitability.
• Double Your PM Capacity: How adding a Coordinator and Crew Leader role enabled his PMs to manage nearly $2M each.
• Lead Leaders, Not Just Employees: The mindset shift required to attract talent better than you, and why it’s essential for breaking the 7-figure ceiling.
• Build a Marketing Machine: How Michael is structuring KPIs and reporting to fuel predictable growth.
• Create a Business That Gives Back: How his “Paint It Forward” program is scaling alongside revenue, with a goal of 50 projects per year.

If you’re ready to stop doing everything yourself and start building a business that truly scales, this episode is your roadmap.

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Ready to scale a painting business to 76 locations with a 24% net profit? In this value-packed episode of the Profitable Painter Podcast, we sit down with Jay Mason, a true industry insider who went from a Sherwin-Williams store manager to building a formidable painting franchise empire.

He pulls back the curtain on the exact systems, processes, and mindset shifts that allow his franchisees, even those with zero painting experience, to build consistently profitable and scalable businesses. If you're tired of the feast-or-famine cycle and want to build a business that works for you, this is your masterclass.

You’ll learn how to:

• Build Profitability with Precision: Why job costing every single project is the non-negotiable key to achieving an average 24.4% net profit.
• Master the Sub vs. Employee Debate: Discover the hybrid model Jay recommends, when to make the switch, and how to build win-win partnerships with subcontractors so they treat your clients like gold.
• Scale with Systems, Not Just Sweat: The proven franchise playbooks that systematize everything from sales to operations, allowing new owners to scale faster and more profitably.
• Ensure Consistent Cash Flow: The critical importance of marketing year-round and diversifying your service offerings (like garage floors & decks) to keep revenue flowing in any market.
• Avoid the #1 Pitfall of Failing Contractors: The two major cash flow and profitability traps that sink most business owners, and how to avoid them.
• The Recipe for Top-Tier Success: The three things Jay’s most successful franchisees all do: continuous education, relentless marketing, and building relationships, not transactions.

If you're ready to stop chasing transactions and start building a business that thrives on relationships and systems, Jay’s insights from analyzing dozens of markets are pure gold.

Key Takeaways:

• How to negotiate with subs by viewing jobs as a "portfolio" of singles, doubles, and home runs.
• Why the "path of least resistance" is killing your profitability and how to stay disciplined with your processes.
• The inexpensive strategy to ensure past clients remember you and become a source of recurring revenue.
• How offering multiple niche services protects your business during market shifts.
• Jay's top advice: Never stop learning, network with other successful contractors, and most importantly, have fun building your business.

If you enjoyed this conversation, hit that SUBSCRIBE button for more weekly strategies on mastering your numbers, boosting profits, and building a business that works for you

For being a loyal listener, I want to send you a copy of my new book Profitable Painter. Inside, I’ll show you the exact frameworks that have helped painting businesses save big on taxes, increase profits, and scale with confidence
Head over to profitablepaintercpa.com/book and grab your copy today. Don’t wait — this is my gift to you for being part of the Profitable Painter community.

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Ready to go from startup chaos to a self-running painting business in under a year? In this powerhouse episode of the Profitable Painter Podcast, we sit down with Jordan, a painting business owner from Virginia who skyrocketed from $0 to over $360,000 in his first year and is on track to double that in year two.

He pulls back the curtain on the messy beginnings, the costly mistakes, and the exact mindset and operational shifts that unlocked rapid growth. If you're in the trenches, trying to do it all, and feeling overwhelmed, this is the playbook you need.

You’ll learn how to:

- Stop the Shiny Object Chase: Why saying "no" to every opportunity was the #1 key to finding profitability and focus.
- Pivot from Painter to CEO: How Jordan transitioned from doing all the work himself to building a team that ran the business for 3 weeks WITHOUT him.
- Double Your Monthly Revenue: The strategic hiring (an appointment setter + W2 painters) that took him from $25k to $60k per month.
- Build Systems That Scale: How he used ChatGPT, industry friends, and consultants to create bulletproof processes his team actually follows.
- Master the Sub vs. Employee Debate: Why he uses a 60/40 model and how he treats his subs like exclusive team members.
- Create a Business That Gives You Freedom: The exact steps he took to leave for a 3-week military training (and now a 2-week vacation) with total confidence his business would thrive without him.

If you're struggling with wearing all the hats, booking out too far, or unsure how to hire your first team, Jordan’s real-world, no-BS journey is packed with actionable lessons.

Key Takeaways:

• The "Rule of 3" for diagnosing your sales and production bottlenecks.
• How to prepare your team to operate seamlessly when you're completely unreachable.
• Why niching down to residential repaint & cabinets was a game-changer.
• The marketing mix (Facebook Ads, SEO, LSAs) that consistently fills his pipeline.
• His top advice for new owners: Get involved in the community and leverage both free and paid resources.

If you enjoyed this conversation, hit that SUBSCRIBE button for more weekly strategies on mastering your numbers, boosting profits, and building a business that works for you!

For being a loyal listener, I want to send you a copy of my new book Profitable Painter. Inside, I’ll show you the exact frameworks that have helped painting businesses save big on taxes, increase profits, and scale with confidence
Head over to profitablepaintercpa.com/book and grab your copy today. Don’t wait — this is my gift to you for being part of the Profitable Painter community.