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"Stings for Our Enemies. Honey for Our Friends." (from Our Ancestors Were Messy)

"Stings for Our Enemies. Honey for Our Friends." (from Our Ancestors Were Messy)

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For as long as she can remember, Nichole Hill has had a complicated relationship with Black history. Then in 2020, she stumbled on a digital archive of pre Civil Rights era Black newspapers and got obsessed with the scandalous stories she found. Our Ancestors Were Messy is her new podcast that explores Black history through the lens of gossip and drama. In this episode, Nichole tells the story of a Victorian era love triangle that rocked the elites of DC.

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