When it comes to protein, grams aren’t the whole story. Let’s explore the concept of the protein package and why the foods that deliver protein matter just as much as the protein itself.

From hot pot dinners and homemade fried rice to gut health, fiber, inflammation, and environmental impact, this episode explores how plant-based protein sources offer far more than amino acids alone. It breaks down common myths about “complete proteins,” explains why fiber is foundational to health, and discusses the role of the gut microbiome in everything from metabolism to heart health.

Whether you are fully plant-based, plant-forward, or simply curious about improving your health, this conversation offers practical guidance for choosing protein sources that support your body long term.

• What we mean by the “protein package”

• Why protein is never eaten in isolation

• How fiber, fats, vitamins, and phytochemicals shape health outcomes

• Plant-based vs. animal-based protein and cardiovascular health

• Gut microbiome benefits of fiber-rich foods

• Common myths about amino acids and “complete proteins”

• Why you do not need all amino acids in one meal

• Environmental considerations of protein choices

• How to transition to eating more fiber without GI distress

• Protein density, satiety, and why volume matters

• B12 and omega-3 considerations for plant-based eaters

• Protein quality matters more than protein quantity alone

• Plant protein packages deliver fiber, phytochemicals, and minimal saturated fat

• Fiber supports gut health, inflammation control, and long-term metabolic health

• Animal protein may be more protein-dense per bite but comes with trade-offs

• Most people can meet protein needs with plants by eating enough variety and volume

• Transitioning to higher fiber intake should be done gradually

• Knowing your B12 and omega-3 sources is essential on a plant-based diet

You do not have to be perfect to benefit. Prioritizing plant proteins most of the time can meaningfully improve health, support the gut microbiome, and reduce chronic disease risk.

In this Thanksgiving-themed episode, Tracy and Eden welcome Nicole Brecht, founder of The Good Life Refuge in northern Colorado — a haven for more than 70 rescued farm animals and a community built on empathy, healing, and second chances.

Nicole shares how her lifelong love for animals evolved into creating a full-scale sanctuary and a movement of compassion that transforms both animals and people.

Over plant-based holiday favorites — from seitan roasts to coconut-curry casseroles — the trio explores what it really means to live your values, how personal connection inspires dietary change, and why education may be the most powerful form of rescue.

• Nicole’s vegan awakening: how caring for one sick chicken led her to go vegan overnight.

• Inside The Good Life Refuge: home to 11 species — including cows, pigs, goats, alpacas, horses, and birds — supported by nearly 60 volunteers.

• Meet Conrad & Sarah, the turkeys: their quirks, intelligence, and a bittersweet reminder of how Thanksgiving can be reimagined with compassion.

• The power of gentle advocacy: Nicole’s inclusive philosophy welcomes everyone, no matter where they are on their plant-based journey.

• Education > Rescue: why one person shifting their diet can save ~400 animals per year.

• How to help: from donations to volunteering, board service, or simply spreading the word to keep the sanctuary sustainable.

• Website: https://goodliferefuge.org

• Instagram: https://goodliferefuge.org

• Learn more about Nicole Brecht: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicole-brecht-a163535/

• Eden’s family-favorite homemade seitan roll with leek-mushroom gravy

• Tracy’s classic plant-based stuffing

• Nicole’s potato–lentil–coconut curry casserole

• How Not to Die by Dr. Michael Greger — evidence-based nutrition guidance

• The Joyful Vegan by Colleen Patrick-Goudreau — navigating the emotional and social aspects of living compassionately

In this episode, Tracy and Eden dig into one of the most common questions they get from patients: “Am I getting enough protein?”

They bust myths, explain evidence-based recommendations, and share practical ways to hit your protein goals–without obsessing over every gram. From understanding how needs differ for athletes, older adults, and people recovering from illness, to exploring why plant proteins measure up just as well, this episode is full of science-backed takeaways and real-world tips.

Whether you’re a weekend runner, a strength-training enthusiast, or just trying to eat more plants, this episode helps you find your protein sweet spot.

• Protein 101: The recommended daily range – 0.8–1.5 g/kg of body weight for most adults, up to 2 g/kg for specific needs like healing or strength training.

• Myth Busting: Yes, you can get all 20 essential amino acids from plants–no animal protein required.

• Who Needs More: Athletes, older adults, and people healing from injury or surgery often benefit from higher protein intake.

• Everyday Wins: A cup of black beans (15 g), half a block of tofu (20 g), oats, and even greens like spinach or broccoli all contribute to your total.

• Tools & Tips: Adding plant-based protein powders to smoothies or overnight oats can help close the gap if needed.

• Protein needs vary by activity: Endurance athletes often need more carbs, while strength trainers and older adults benefit from higher protein.

• American College of Lifestyle Medicine

• P2P’s Plant-Based Recipe Generator (available on the podcast website)

• SWAP-MEAT Study – Comparing Plant-Based Meat Alternatives to Their Animal Counterparts

• The Impact of Plant-Based Dietary Patterns on Cancer-Related Outcomes: A Rapid Review and Meta-Analysis – NIH

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