On this episode of Between Two Fermenters, we're welcoming back a familiar voice in Scott Simmons, President of theOntario Craft Brewers Association (OCB). If there’s anyone who knows how to navigate the ever-changing intersection of beer and policy, it’s Scott. He joins Troy to unpack what many are calling a game-changing and historic moment for Ontario’s craft beer industry: the recent 2025 provincial budget.

Troy and Scott discuss what was announced, why it matters, and what it means for both brewers and beer drinkers alike. From tax relief and retail reforms to red tape reduction and long-overdue modernization efforts, Scott breaks down the wins, the work still ahead, and the exciting direction things are headed in. They also get into the role of the OCB moving forward, how breweries can stay engaged, and why this moment is bigger than just numbers on a spreadsheet.

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