🎙️ “You can ignore it, you can complain about it — or you can do something about it. And I feel better doing something about it.” — Ben Cohen

In this episode of Out Loud, host Ahmed Eldin sits down with Ben Cohen, co-founder of Ben & Jerry’s, for a fearless, heart-centered conversation about war, justice, capitalism, and conscience.

🔥 Ben has never been shy about mixing business with bold values. Now, he’s become one of the most unapologetically vocal Jewish-American critics of U.S. policy in Gaza — and he’s not backing down.

We dive deep into:

• Why he disrupted a Senate hearing over U.S. military aid to Israel

• How his Jewish upbringing shaped his activism

• What links Gaza and Flint, Michigan

• Why being bullied as a kid gave him a lifelong sense of justice

• The difference between caring and acting

• And what it really takes to bend the arc toward justice

  
  

📣 “They’ve sold their soul to the money. And I don’t think that’s what the people really want.”

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There are two versions of Motaz Azaiza. There is the one etched into the consciousness of millions, lens slung over his shoulder, eyes bloodshot, not just from sleepless nights, but from witnessing what no one should ever have to.

The man who didn't just document Israel's genocide in Gaza, he became a portal, a lifeline, a resistance not of weapons, but of truth.

But then there is the other Motaz.

The one I met at the Web Summit in Doha away from the rubble and sirens. The man, not the symbol. Still fierce, still unfiltered, but softer too, honest in a way that hurts. Human, in a way the internet often forgets to allow.

We sat down, not to perform grief, but to process it. To talk, not for the algorithm, but for ourselves, about what it means to carry trauma while the world scrolls past. About how visibility is both a lifeline and a wound.

This isn't an interview, it's a heart to heart, between two Palestinians, shaped by different histories, speaking from different wounds, but bound by the same longing for justice, for connection, for a future we have never been allowed to imagine.

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