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In this episode, we sit down with Michigan State’s Executive Vice President of Administration, Vennie Gore. He leads a vast and diverse campus portfolio with a simple playbook: master the basics, align on what matters, and expand only when the team is ready. From the story behind his one-of-a-kind name to the 14 Golden Rules he wrote as a hall director—and still follows today—Vennie shows how consistency beats complexity in high-stakes operations.

We unpack his “20-mile walk” for building alignment across units with different definitions of “the basics” and explore why a football season offers the perfect analogy for organizational maturity: start simple, earn trust through execution, then open the playbook. He also shares why he treats careers as portfolios, not ladders, and how pattern recognition helps leaders “slow down to hurry up.”

Along the way, we dive into systems thinking through sports: why even “individual” sports like golf are deeply interdependent, how leaders switch hats between partner, supplier, customer, and vendor, and why emotional energy is a leader’s most contagious signal. Vennie makes the case for marrying student development theory with the business of higher education, building organizational readiness, and reducing unforced errors through direct communication, trust, humility, and a no-surprises culture.

A grounded, practical guide for anyone steering large teams through long seasons.

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A personal reflection on how summer camp experiences teach profound lessons about leadership, community living, and navigating loss. This solo episode explores how the simple act of sharing space shapes our ability to lead with care and presence during both ordinary moments and times of crisis.

• Summer camp as the first experience of co-living – sharing everything from bathrooms to stories
• Camp counselors as "lollipop leaders" who make impact through small, often forgotten moments
• Leadership often looks like showing up consistently, not necessarily having all the answers
• The power of ritualized connection through handwritten "chicken letters" and personal notes
• Navigating transitions by acknowledging endings and making space for grief
• Building resilience through community and practicing how to live alongside difference

If we want stronger leaders, better neighbors, and more compassionate communities, we have to keep practicing how to live together. Let's honor the places and people who shaped us by how we show up for one another, especially in the hardest moments.

If you would like to support the Texas Hill Country community after the devastating floods, considering giving to the Community Foundation of the Texas Hill Country. https://www.communityfoundation.net/

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Ever wonder what it takes to lead a major professional association while juggling a demanding day job? In this special mini-episode celebrating the ACUHO-I Annual Conference, we sit down with Kathy Hobgood, current ACUHO-I President and Associate Vice President for Auxiliary Enterprises at Clemson University.

Kathy takes us behind the curtain of association leadership, revealing why professional organizations matter now more than ever. "How can we provide a place for people to come together and just be together, even if there's no answers?" she asks, highlighting the community-building function that remains crucial during challenging times in higher education. We explore ACUHO-I's three-pronged approach—community, education, and advocacy—that helps housing professionals navigate everything from budget crises to occupancy challenges.

The conversation turns personal as Kathy shares her unexpected journey to leadership, including a pivotal conversation with a mentor who challenged her to serve her region before seeking national office. Her revelation about fundraising—"I used to think I was terrible at asking people for money. I'm going to find out I am shameless in the name of a good cause"—offers a powerful reminder that leadership roles often help us discover strengths we didn't know we had. For anyone attending the upcoming conference, Kathy's advice to be "as aggressively friendly as your personality type will allow" and to make time for industry partners even when not currently buying, provides a practical roadmap for making the most of professional development opportunities.

Whether you're heading to Columbus for Campus Home Live or simply curious about the housing profession, this conversation offers valuable insights about professional growth, association leadership, and finding your people in higher education. Connect with us at the conference or share this episode with colleagues who might benefit from a little inspiration and practical wisdom!