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No Boxes: Just Verses

No Boxes: Just Verses

By: Shannon Nash
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No Boxes: Just Verses is where inspiring leaders reveal the songs and stories that shaped their journey. Join host Shannon Nash, a global C-suite leader, attorney, and CPA, as she goes beyond titles and trophies to explore the moments that truly defined today's top executives, entrepreneurs, and artists.


Each episode is a deep dive into a guest's personal "Leadership Playlist," uncovering the pivotal lessons and life-changing moments tied to the music that moved them. From career breakthroughs to personal reinvention, we explore the authentic, unboxed stories behind extraordinary success.


This isn't your typical leadership podcast. It's a rich blend of leadership development, personal storytelling, and musical discovery. Whether you're an aspiring leader, a seasoned executive, or simply a music lover, you'll find powerful insights and a vibrant community here.


Come for the stories, stay for the playlist. Subscribe now and join us as we redefine leadership, one verse at a time.

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Episodes
  • Christiane Pendarvis on Building Gap, Savage X Fenty and PATTERN Beauty
    Sep 15 2025

    In this inspiring episode of No Boxes: Just Verses, we sit down with powerhouse CEO Christiane Pendarvis. Are you a leader trying to navigate an unconventional career path, overcome self-doubt, or find your authentic leadership style? Christiane's journey is a powerful testament to the value of taking risks, embracing pivots, and finding your purpose beyond a career plan. From her upbringing in South Carolina to leading global brands like Savage X Fenty and PATTERN Beauty, this conversation reveals the songs and stories that shaped a true unboxed leader.

    Christiane Pendarvis is a growth-oriented Chief Executive Officer with over 30 years of experience. She is currently the Co-CEO of PATTERN Beauty and previously served as Co-President of Savage X Fenty, where she grew revenues six times over and closed a major financing round. She brings a leadership style grounded in compassion and empathy and serves on the boards of public companies, including Him for Hers and Hootsuite.

    Key Takeaways:

    • Exposure Drives Growth: Learn how a childhood of black excellence in South Carolina, followed by a move to Harvard, taught Christiane that a leader's growth is often accelerated by new experiences and diverse exposure.
    • The Power of Authentic Leadership: Discover how Christiane learned to overcome the fear of showing her whole self at work, realizing that full authenticity is the key to building genuine connections and career longevity.
    • Pivots are a Pathway to Purpose: Hear how an unexpected maternity leave project at Gap and a risky move to a small startup prepared her with the exact e-commerce, strategy, and operational skills she needed to lead Savage X Fenty.
    • The Key to a C-Suite Role: Find out why Christiane believes that the path to a CEO role isn't about a calculated plan, but about being deeply passionate, maniacally focused, and constantly learning what interests you.

    Christiane’s story proves that a leader's journey is a beautiful, unpredictable path. What lessons will you take from her story to create your own unboxed career? Share this episode with a friend and remember to leave a rating and review!

    Thank you for listening! If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and review the podcast!

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    Theme Song: Pedal to the Medal by Martin Luther (Spotify | Apple Music)

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    1 hr
  • Artis Gilmore: NBA Hall of Famer on Quiet Leadership, Faith, and Family
    Sep 11 2025

    In this special edition of No Boxes: Just Verses, recorded live at the Harold and Carol Pump Foundation's celebrity fundraiser, we sit down with basketball legend and Hall of Famer, Artis Gilmore. Have you ever wondered what it takes to rise from a childhood of poverty to a career of unprecedented success? Artis' journey is a powerful testament to the value of mentorship, perseverance, and a deep commitment to family legacy. This conversation goes beyond the court to reveal the songs and stories that shaped a quiet leader whose influence continues to impact generations.

    Artis Gilmore is a Hall of Fame basketball legend who dominated both the ABA and NBA. A seven-foot-two center, he led Jacksonville University to the NCAA Championship game and went on to become the ABA's Rookie of the Year and MVP. He holds the NBA record for the highest career field goal percentage at nearly 60%. Known for his quiet leadership and efficiency, he remains one of the most respected big men in basketball history.

    Key Takeaways:

    • The Power of a Visionary Coach: Learn how a high school coach saw potential in a young Artis and created a path for him to leave his challenging upbringing to get an education and play basketball.
    • The Leadership of the Long Game: Discover why Artis chose to turn down a pro contract early in his career to finish his degree, setting an example for his younger siblings and creating a generational legacy of education.
    • Basketball as a Business: Hear how Artis' experiences in the competitive ABA and NBA taught him lessons on quick decision-making and being prepared for failure—skills that are essential in both business and life.
    • Defining True Wealth: Find out why Artis believes a leader's true wealth is not the money or accolades, but the success and happiness of their family and the positive impact they have on their community.

    Artis Gilmore's story proves that a leader’s journey is often shaped by a spiritual belief and a desire to make a difference in the world. Join us in building your own "unboxed" journey and check out the show notes to get Artis' unforgettable playlist!


    Thank you for listening! If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and review the podcast!


    CONNECT WITH ARTIS:

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    CONNECT WITH SHANNON:

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    Theme Song: Pedal to the Medal by Martin Luther (Spotify | Apple Music)

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    44 mins
  • Steve Garvey: From MLB Ironman to Impactful Life Pivots
    Sep 8 2025

    In this special edition of No Boxes: Just Verses, recorded live from Beverly Hills, we sit down with legendary MLB All-Star and current Senate candidate, Steve Garvey. Have you ever wondered what it takes to build a career defined by consistency and durability, both on and off the field? Steve's journey is a powerful testament to the value of mentorship, seizing opportunity, and the courage to reinvent yourself. This conversation goes beyond the baseball diamond to reveal the songs and stories that shaped a leader known for his reliability and integrity.

    Steve Garvey is a former Major League Baseball first baseman, best known for his iconic years with the LA Dodgers and San Diego Padres. A 10-time All-Star and 1974 NL MVP, he holds the National League record for consecutive games played with 1,207. Celebrated for his consistency and leadership, Garvey has amassed over 2,600 hits in his 19-year career. He is currently a candidate for the U.S. Senate.

    Key Takeaways:

    • Mentorship Starts Early: Learn how a chance encounter with Jackie Robinson and Roy Campanella when he was a seven-year-old bat boy gave him a foundational lesson on working hard and doing well in school to have options beyond baseball.
    • The Courage to Seize the Moment: Discover how a last-minute opportunity to play first base during a doubleheader changed his entire career trajectory and taught him to always be prepared to seize the moment, no matter how small the chance.
    • Humility and Preparation for Life After the Game: Hear how Garvey used his off-seasons to work for companies and learn about business, recognizing that a professional career is short and that a leader must prepare for "after the cheering stops".
    • Civility as a Leadership Principle: Learn how a conversation between President Reagan and Tip O’Neill inspired Garvey’s belief in the importance of political civility and discourse, even with people who have completely different ideologies.

    Steve Garvey’s journey proves that the best leaders are those who are open to new experiences and never stop trying to make a difference. What lessons from his story will you carry with you?


    Thank you for listening! If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and review the podcast!


    CONNECT WITH STEVE GARVEY:

    Instagram

    Playlist


    CONNECT WITH SHANNON:

    Facebook

    Instagram

    LinkedIn Shannon | LinkedIn NBJV

    Theme Song: Pedal to the Medal by Martin Luther (Spotify | Apple Music)

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    57 mins
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