What really changes when economics and geopolitics rewrite the rules?

In this conversation, Michael Kobori and Sandja Brügmann explore how sustainability is evolving amid today’s macroeconomic and geopolitical pressures. Kobori highlights the growing need for sustainability leaders to align their work with core business and financial priorities, the power of collaboration across companies, and the role of innovation in driving systemic change. Drawing on his experience at Starbucks, he also underscores the importance of culture and leadership in embedding sustainability at scale. The discussion closes with a pragmatic yet hopeful outlook, calling for proactive leadership and stronger communities to shape the future of sustainability.

00:00 The Current State of Sustainability

03:49 Navigating Challenges in Sustainability Leadership

08:04 Corporate Responsibility and Systemic Change

11:59 Innovative Solutions and Collaborative Efforts

15:56 Case Studies in Sustainability Initiatives

24:07 The Future of Corporate Sustainability

33:00 Water Initiatives and Corporate Responsibility

35:59 Collaboration for Sustainability

39:07 Leadership and Culture in Sustainability

44:01 Systemic Change and Strategic Design

49:00 Hope and Action in Sustainability

00:00 The Current State of Sustainability

03:54 Navigating Challenges in Sustainability Leadership

07:26 Corporate Responsibility and Systemic Change

10:36 Innovative Solutions and Collaborative Efforts

13:43 Case Studies in Sustainability Initiatives

20:01 The Future of Corporate Sustainability

26:24 Water Initiatives and Corporate Responsibility

28:43 Collaboration for Sustainability

31:08 Leadership and Culture in Sustainability

34:30 Systemic Change and Strategic Design

38:35 Hope and Action

Links

Marc Carney’s full speach at Davos 2026 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btqHDhO4h10

The Culture Code https://danielcoyle.com/the-culture-code/

Michael Kobori on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-kobori-7a04b26/

Sandja Brügmann on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/sandja/

New Global Mind:Leadership for Systems Transformation

New Global Mind: A video podcast exploring brighter futures through leadership. A new series from The Passion Institute. Each episode explores innovative ideas, wisdom andstrategies with cross-disciplinary experts in systems science, strategic transformation, human behavior, consciousness, sustainability, psychology, economics, spirituality, and technology.

About Host SandjaBrügmann, Founder & CEO of The Passion Institute—astrategic transformation institute—a global visionary in leadership and strategic transformation, engages thought leaders and practitioners to shape our collective future. Named one of the "World's Leadership Gurus" by Lederne and known as 'The Board Whisperer' among leaders, she is renowned forher expertise in systems awareness and strategic sustainable transformation. She and team empower forward-thinking organizations and leaders to cultivate the skills and strategies crucial for the systemic transition.

About Michael Kobori Michael Kobori is a global sustainability leader committed to building a more just and sustainable world. He has held senior roles including Chief Sustainability Officer at Starbucks, Vice President of Sustainability at Levi Strauss & Co., and board director at Bunge Global SA.

He is currently a strategic advisor to Nationswell and an advisor to GaiaStar, a circular economy start-up. Michael is a Trustee of The Asia Foundation and a member of the U.S.–Japan Council, with prior service across leading industry, NGO, and UN initiatives.

A frequent speaker at global forums, Michael has also taught sustainability at UC Berkeley’s Haas School of Business. He holds a Master’s in Public Policy from UC Berkeley and has studied sustainable finance at Oxford University.

In this conversation, Léa and Sandja explore the intricate relationship between parenting, leadership, and artificial intelligence (AI). They discuss how parenting experiences shape leadership qualities and the importance of self-leadership in both domains. The dialogue delves into the challenges andopportunities presented by AI in parenting, emphasizing the need for human connection and community in an increasingly digital world. They also reflect on the biological basis of parenting, the role of technology in shaping humanrelationships, and the importance of agency in both children and leaders. Ultimately, the conversation calls for a reimagining of the future of work and parenting, advocating for a human-centric approach to technology and leadership.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Parenting, Leadership, and AI

02:41 The Intersection of Parenting and Leadership

05:44 AI's Role in Leadership and Parenting

08:14 The Human Experience vs. AI

11:12 Parenting in the Age of AI

14:00 Biological Foundations of Parenting

16:51 The Impact of AI on Human Relationships

19:38 Attunement and Emotional Connection

22:31 The Role of Technology in Parenting

25:28 The Future of Parenting and Leadership

28:13 The Value of Human Connection

30:54 The Care Economy and Human Values

33:52 The Role of AI in Society

36:34 Raising Humanity vs. Raising AI

39:26 Conclusion: The Future of Parenting and AI

45:00 Reimagining AI's Role in Society

47:02 The Human Element in Technology

49:23 Augmented vs. Artificial Intelligence

50:53 The Value of Human Intelligence

52:57 Redefining Education and Parenting

55:34 The Collapse of Community

01:00:33 Building Trust and Relationships

01:04:47 The Impact of Technology on Human Evolution

01:07:46 Creating the Future Together

Links

Connect with Léa Peersman on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lea-peersman/

Connect with Sandja Brügmann on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/sandja/

The Passion Institute www.thepassioninstitute.com

New Global Mind: A video podcast exploring brighter futures through leadership. A new series from The Passion Institute. Each episode explores innovative ideas, wisdom and strategies with cross-disciplinary experts in systems science, strategictransformation, human behavior, consciousness, sustainability, psychology, economics, spirituality, and technology.

Host Sandja Brügmann, Founder & CEO of The Passion Institute—a strategic transformation institute—a global visionary in leadership and strategic transformation, engages thought leaders and practitioners to shape our collective future. Namedone of the "World's Leadership Gurus" by Lederne and known as 'The Board Whisperer' among leaders, she is renowned for her expertise in systems awareness and strategic sustainable transformation. She and team empower forward-thinking organizations and leaders to cultivate the skills and strategies crucial for the transition.

About Léa Peersman is a visionary leader and innovator dedicated to unlocking human potential. With two decades of experience in education, leadership, and tech, she challenges the notion that AI's frontier lies in technology, instead focusing on empowering humans. A neurodiverse expert, Léa explores how parenting, culture, and AI literacy can foster creativity and resilience. She has worked with esteemed organizations and spoken at TEDx and Drucker Forum events, advocating for people-centric solutions in the AI era.

In this conversation, Sandja Brügmann and Tor Nørretranders discuss the Shifting Baseline Syndrome, which highlights how each generation perceives the present as the norm, often overlooking the changes that have occurred over time. They explore the vital role of elders in society, emphasizing their moral obligation to contribute and share their memories and experiences. The discussion also touches on the importance of community, the gift economy, and the need for conflict resolution skills. Tor introduces the concept of Sinnsro, a state of peace and acceptance, and highlights the significance of small interactions, or Chula Hop moments, in building social bonds. Overall, the conversation advocates for recognizing thevalue of elders and fostering meaningful connections within communities.

Chapters

00:00 Understanding Shifting Baseline Syndrome

07:24 The Role of Elders in Society

13:30 The Importance of Historical Context

18:35 Sensing Gradual Changes in Society

25:29 Navigating Fear and Embracing Change

28:25 The Concept of Sinnsro and Community Dialogue

32:13 Conflict Resolution and Common Ground

32:53 Personal Responsibility in Experiences

35:57 The Role of Social Connections in Longevity

42:48 Community Dynamics and Shared Purpose

43:32 Market Economy vs. Gift Economy

54:32 The Importance of Interpersonal Skills

56:44 The Renaissance of Elders in Society

01:03:29 Exploring Sindsro: Serenity and Wisdom of Elders

About New Global Mind: A video podcast exploring brighter futures through leadership. A series from The Passion Institute. Each episode explores innovative ideas, wisdom and strategies with cross-disciplinary experts in systems science, strategictransformation, human behavior, consciousness, sustainability, psychology, economics, spirituality, and technology.

About Tor Nørretranders he is an independent author, thinker and speaker based in Denmark, serving an international audience. A leading science communicator of Denmark, Torhas involved himself in numerous activities in the public arena and his lecture tours, gathering tens of thousands of people, have been major events on the Scandinavian scene.. Tor has published 30+ books spanning issues from the worldview of science and the role of science in society to environmental issues and the realm of human experience and consciousness. "Mærk verden" from 1991 (English title: The User Illusion) became an international bestseller, even though it is a500-page treatise on the role of consciousness in human affairs. In 2025 Tor published “Alderdomsoprør” about the potential role of the elderly as spearheads of a new revolt against the monotony of life and nature stemming from modern life. The book advocates for serenity as the value needed for a new age.

About Host Sandja Brügmann, Founder & CEO of The Passion Institute—a strategic transformation institute—a global visionary in leadership and strategic transformation, engages thought leaders and practitioners to shape our collective future. Named one of the "World's Leadership Gurus" byLederne and known as 'The Board Whisperer' among leaders, she is renowned for her expertise in systems awareness and strategic sustainable transformation. She and team empower forward-thinking organizations and leaders to cultivate theskills and strategies crucial for the transition.

Links

Tor's website https://www.tor.dk/

Sandja's company website www.ThePassionInstitute.com

In this conversation, John Fullerton and Sandja Brügmannexplore the urgent need for a reimagined economic and financial system that serves life. They discuss the concept of the polycrisis, which encompasses interconnected crises such as climate change and inequality, and emphasize the importance of shifting worldviews from separation to unity. The dialogue highlights the necessity of effective communication, the role of consciousness in systemic change, and the potential for regenerative economics to align purpose with investment. They also address the challenges of navigating chaos and the importance of finding joy in the transformative work ahead.

New Global Mind: A video podcast exploring brighter futures through leadership. A new series from The Passion Institute. Each episode explores innovative ideas, wisdom and strategies with cross-disciplinary experts in systems science, strategictransformation, human behavior, consciousness, sustainability, psychology, economics, spirituality, and technology.

Takeaways

The economy is a living system, not a machine

The polycrisis encompasses interconnected crises like climate change and inequality

A worldview shift is necessary to address root causes of crises

Dialogue is essential for generative conversations and understanding

We must work on consciousness to change the systems we inhabit

Islands of coherence can shift entire system

Regenerative economics is about aligning purpose with investment

First principles of living systems guide sustainable practices

Potential exists in all systems, but must be nurtured

Collective rising consciousness can lead to systemic change

Chapters

00:00 A Bold Reimagination of Economics

03:10 Understanding the Polycrisis

05:04 The Myth of Separation

07:24 Worldview Shifts and Integral Age Thinking

09:59 The Challenge of Communication

12:19 Navigating Emotional Immaturity

14:29 Paradigm Shifts in Economics

17:05 Living Systems and Economic Health

19:29 Experiential Learning and Regenerative Economics

21:44 Potential and Darkness in Living Systems

30:48 The Dark Side of Algorithms

32:58 First Principles and Business Models

36:42 The State of the Global Economy

40:51 Paradigm Shifts and Collective Consciousness

43:20 Strategies for Change

47:16 Finding Joy in the Work

Links:

www.CapitalInstitute.org

Places to Intervene in a System https://donellameadows.org/archives/leverage-points-places-to-intervene-in-a-system/

Savory Institute https://savory.global/

Mondragon Corporation https://www.mondragon-corporation.com/en/

The Passion Institute www.ThePassionInstitute.com

About John B. Fullerton is an American economist, investor, with a previous international career at JP Morgan, and author of the 2015 booklet, Regenerative Capitalism: How Universal Patterns and Principles Will Shape the New Economy.

Fullerton began his financial career with JPMorgan managing numerous capital markets and derivaties businesses around the globe, and was JPMorgan’s Oversight Committee Representative that managed the rescue of Long Term Capital Management in 1998. Following his retirement from JP Morgan, in 2010, he created the Capital Institute, a think-tank on regenerative economic theory, an attempt to imagine economics and finance in service to life.

About Host Sandja Brügmann, Founder & CEO of The Passion Institute—a strategic transformation institute—a global visionary in leadership and strategic transformation, engages thought leaders and practitioners to shape our collective future. Named one of the "World's Leadership Gurus" byLederne and known as 'The Board Whisperer' among leaders, she is renowned for her expertise in systems awareness and strategic sustainable transformation. She and team empower forward-thinking organizations and leaders to cultivate theskills and strategies crucial for the transition.

In this conversation, Sandja Brügmann, host of New Global Mind and Chief Executive of The Passion Institute, speaks with Erik Korsvik Østergaard on the concept of anticipatory leadership, emphasizing the importance of using anticipation to navigate decision-making and organizational design. He explores how visualization techniques and emotional engagement can enhance futures literacy, enabling leaders to create more authentic and effective strategies. The discussion also highlights the role of facilitation and ecosystem awareness in fostering collaboration and understanding within organizations. Ultimately, the conversation underscores the need for leaders to embrace a holistic approach to leadership that integrates emotional intelligence and foresight.

New Global Mind: A video podcast exploring brighter futures through leadership. A new series by The Passion Institute. Each episode explores innovative ideas, wisdom and strategies with cross-disciplinary experts in systems science, strategic transformation, human behavior, consciousness, sustainability, psychology, economics, spirituality, and technology

Takeaways

-Anticipatory leadership involves using anticipation in decision-making.

-Visualization techniques can enhance emotional engagement in leadership.

-Facilitation is key to driving futures thinking processes.

-Understanding the ecosystem is vital for effective leadership.

-Leaders should embrace a holistic approach to leadership.

-Emotional impacts from futures thinking include hope, ownership, and agency.

-Collaboration and co-creation are essential in leadership.

-Listening for emergence can lead to better decision-making.

-Futures literacy can be applied in both professional and personal contexts.

-The journey of becoming a futures literate leader is ongoing and requires practice.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Anticipatory Leadership

02:02 Horizon Scanning and Sensing Anomalies

04:39 Emotional Intelligence in Leadership

07:25 Futures Literacy and Imagination

09:55 Anticipatory Leadership Defined

15:01 Backcasting and Future Scenarios

21:20 The Mental Game of Archery and Business

21:49 Emotional Impact of Futures Thinking

23:39 Designing Futures: Ownership and Agency

25:41 Facilitation in Futures Literacy

28:17 Understanding Your Ecosystem

31:47 The Relational Space in Leadership

34:10 Authenticity and Futures Literacy

37:01 Creating Trust and Humility in Teams

39:32 Systems Transformation and Leadership

Links

Link to Erik Korsvik Østergaardon LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/erikkorsvikoestergaard/

Anticipatory Leadership by ErikKorsvik Østergaard https://www.amazon.com/Anticipatory-Leadership-organizations-structures-governance/dp/1915951364

Link to Sandja Brügmann onLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/sandja/

ThePassionInstitute.com

About: Erik Korsvik Østergaardis a futures thinker, leadership advisor, speaker and author of 3 books on progressive leadership and organizational design. The most current being Anticipatiory leadership. Founder of Good Morning April, a boutique consultancy, focusing on Futures Thinking and the Future of work, leadership, collaboration, and community.

About: SandjaBrügmann, Founder & CEO of The Passion Institute—astrategic transformation institute—a global visionary in leadership and strategic transformation, engages thought leaders and practitioners to shape our collective future. Named one of the "World's Leadership Gurus" by Lederne and known as 'The Board Whisperer' among leaders, she is renowned forher expertise in systems awareness and strategic sustainable transformation. She and team empower forward-thinking organizations and leaders to cultivate the skills and strategies crucial for the transition.

In this episode host Sandja Brügmann speaks with world renowned systems scientist, Alexander Laszlo on his latest research on Syntony sense: Evolutionary intuition for world changers.

New Global Mind: A video podcast exploring brighter futures through leadership. Each episode explores innovative ideas, wisdom and strategies with cross-disciplinary experts in systems science, strategic transformation, human behavior, consciousness, sustainability, psychology, economics, spirituality, and technology

00:00 Introduction to New Global Mind, Alexander Laszlo and Syntony Sense

02:12 Flute by Alexander Laszlo

03:40 Diving into the topic of Syntony sense and Evolutionary intuition

09:55 Understanding Evolutionary Intuition

19:25 The Five Spheres of Syntony

28:33 Collective Intelligence and Leadership

30:59 Flourishing Relationships and Sustainability

31:28 Emergence of Syntony and Life-Affirming Engagement

32:34 Shifting Perspectives: From Self-Centered to Reciprocal Relationships

34:48 Navigating Organizational Change: From Pre-active to Proactive

37:29 Anti-Fragility: Thriving in Change

39:00 Transcending Conditioning: The Path to Self-Transcendence

39:42 Creating Nurturing Spaces for Growth

40:58 Three components of Living Systems

42:49 Organizational maturation levels

44:06 Celebrating Life and Potential in Leadership

About: Alexander Laszlo is a world recognized systems scientist, known for his work on systems theories and "education ecosystems". Recipient of the Lifetime Achievement Award for Visionary Leadership, Laszlo was the 57th President of the International Society for the Systems Sciences (ISSS), President of the Board of Directors of the Bertalanffy Center for the Study of Systems Science (BCSSS), Director of research at the Laszlo Institute of New Paradigm Research (LINPR), currently Doctoral Faculty in Sustainability Leadership at Fielding Graduate University. With his research and work Alexander Laszlo has delivered outstanding contributions in the fields of leadership, systemic innovation, and sustainability.

You can connect with Alexander Laszlo on LinkedIn & website.

About: Sandja Brügmann, Founder & CEO of The Passion Institute—a strategic transformation institute—a global visionary in leadership and strategic transformation, engages thought leaders and practitioners to shape our collective future. Named one of the "World's Leadership Gurus" by Lederne and known as 'The Board Whisperer' among leaders, she is renowned for her expertise in systems awareness and strategic sustainable transformation. As the founder and Chief Executive of The Passion Institute, she and team empowerforward-thinking organizations and leaders to cultivate the skills and strategies crucial for the transition.

You can find more about us at www.ThePassionInstitute.com

You can connect with Sandja Brügmann on LinkedIn