This deep dialogue explores the shift from traditional economic metrics like GDP to regenerative economics, emphasizing interconnectedness and living systems. Fullerton and Cox discuss the need to move from extractive to exchange-based economies, highlighting the importance of right relationships and resilience over efficiency.

John Fullerton is the founder and president of Capital Institute, a nonprofit organization dedicated to transforming finance and economics to serve life and the planet through “Regenerative Economics”. In 2001, he walked away from a two-decade career at JPMorgan, where he served as Managing Director and oversaw capital markets, derivatives, and investment businesses globally, including acting as Chief Investment Officer for Lab Morgan. LLC. Now, besides his work at Capital Institute, Fullerton is a member of the Club of Rome and currently serves on the Board of Directors of the Savory Institute, dedicated to regenerating the World’s Grasslands. He’s the author of several books including: Regenerative Economics: Revolutionary Thinking for a World in Crisis (2025 New Society Publishers)

Faye Cox is the founder of Hourbooks Press, a small independent publisher that creates short books—each designed to be read in about an hour. Hourbooks is dedicated to sharing essential knowledge that fosters positive change in the world. Cox has a Master’s degree in English Literature from the University of Oxford, and has two decades of leadership roles in systems change design.

John Fullerton and Faye Cox are collaborators on Regenerative Economics: Creating Conditions for Health & Abundance on a Living Planet. (Hourbooks Press 2025)

Interview Date: 10/3/2025 Tags: John Fullerton, Faye Cox, Hourbooks Press, complexity, symbiosis, circular economics, cradle to cradle economics, Regenesis Group, Bob Ulanowicz, Money/Economics, Ecology/Nature/Environment, Community

Michael Cepress is a "triple citizen of the arts," engaged in performing arts, visual arts, and fashion design. He invites us to recognize the limitless potential for good that emerges when artistic expression serves and uplifts the greater good, weaving diverse forms of art into purposeful community action.

Michael Cepress is a multidisciplinary artist celebrated for his dynamic creativity—he is a musician, a storyteller and poet, a craftsman, a designer, and a cultural curator. In addition to his musical talents he has excelled in textile arts and fashion design, with exhibitions of his work showcased internationally. Michael recognizes the boundless potential for good that arises when artistic expression serves and uplifts the greater good, weaving together the varied forms of art into purposeful community action.

Interview Date: 9/11/2025. Tags: Michael Cepress, Native Funk and Flash, Alexandra Jacopetti Hart, Richard Rohr, Swami Kriyananda, quilting, fashion, Art & Creativity

Many explorers are seeking a depth of healing that is more experiential through expanded states of consciousness. Some modalities of this are sweat lodges, vision quests, breath work, and where is it legal, psychedelics in Mexico. Here we explore the experiential therapeutic applications of expanded states of consciousness that lead to healing and transformation. Françoise Bourzat is a consciousness guide and counselor. She has a master’s degree in Somatic Psychology and is a Certified Hakomi Practitioner. After traveling the world, she became an apprentice to an indigenous Mazatec woman leading healing ceremonies with sacred mushrooms in the high mountains of Southern Mexico. Drawing from years of her close apprenticeship with this Mazatec curandera, as well as her training in other indigenous traditions, Françoise has developed a comprehensive approach that bridges Western and indigenous modalities. She trains therapists and facilitators and teaches at the California Institute of Integral Studies. She also lectures internationally. Shes the co-author with Kristina Hunter of Consciousness Medicine: Indigenous Wisdom, Entheogens, and Expanded States of Consciousness for Healing and Growth. (North Atlantic Books 2019).

Interview Date: 7/6/2019 Tags: Françoise Bourzat, heroin, compassion, mushroom ceremonies, psychedelics, entheogens, hallucinogens, vision quest, sweat lodge, transdance, altered states, Ralph Metzner, MAPS, MDMA, PTSD, Roland Griffith, ibogaine, Julieta Casimiro, personal transformation, Indigenous wisdom, Shamanism, Health & Healing

Becoming an elder can be a time of great creativity and contribution.This deep dialogue explores what it means to be to be proactive in approaching aging and becoming an elder in the 21st century. Percy’s research points out that growing older does not mean we can no longer actualize new and healthier futures. These years may be our most influential ones yet. Percy is the author of Becoming an Elder: Practicing the Wisdom Arts.

Interview Date: 8/3/2019 Tags: Diana Percy, elderhood, eldering, mortality, obituaries, Sir Laurens Van der Post, meaning, Viktor Frankl, friendships, Matthew Fox, Order of the Sacred Earth, Intergenerational vision, volunteering, humor, personal mastery, Personal Transformation

Lama Palden Drolma presents the Tibetan meditation practice, Tonglen, in a way that is accessible to Westerners. It combines breath, awareness, imagination, and an energetic transformation process that opens our hearts to reveal and cultivate kindness, love, compassion and wisdom. This practice can be used in our everyday life in an “on-the-spot” meditation. Lama Palden Drolma is the author of Love on Every Breath: Tonglen Meditation for Transforming Pain into Joy (New World Library 2019)

Interview Date: 7/16/2019 Tags: MP3, Lama Palden Drolma, Tonglen, Niguma, Dilgo Khyentse, Chenrezig, three jewels, Buddha, Sanga, Dharma, sin, Matthew Fox, mantra, Kalu Rinpoche, 16th Karmapa, Meditation, Personal Transformation, Buddhism

Nepo’s creative works, books, poems, workshops are all about creating a sacred place where the experience of honest truth can happen. Even in our deepest moments of suffering, he encourages us to seek out slivers of light seeping through the broad slats of darkness. His genius is to discover metaphors as a way of understanding and making meaning of our lives. Mark Nepo is the author of many audio learning projects and over 20 books including Reduced To Joy (Cleis Press 2013), Seven Thousand Ways To Listen: Staying Close To What Is Sacred (Free Press 2012), The One Life We’re Given: Finding the Wisdom That Waits in Your heart (Atria Books 2016), The Way Under the Way: The Place of True Meeting (Sounds True 2016) and Drinking from the River of Light: The Life of Expression (Sounds True 2019)

Interview Date: 8/10/2019 Tags: Mark Nepo, metaphors, cancer, grief, Gail Warner, Pine Manor Retreat Center, Doc Palmer, creativity, immersion, whales and dolphins, suffering, telling stories, Rilke, being present, ambition and dreams, making plans, Winston Churchill, assumptions, conclusions, Pandora music app, George Bernard Shaw’s tailor, Personal Transformation, Spirituality, Writing, Art & Creativity, Philosophy