What if your hesitation is actually disobedience in disguise? In this powerful episode, Pastor E and creative visionary Rod Pickens return with a vulnerable, fiery conversation about hearing God’s call—and actually doing something with it. From battling procrastination masked as perfectionism to unpacking what it means to multiply your talents, this episode is a masterclass in faith, obedience, and kingdom creativity.

Pastor E opens up about the heart behind the podcast and why he hesitated to even launch it. It wasn’t fear of failure—it was fear of becoming part of the noise. But what happens when the noise needs your truth?

Rod shares how delayed obedience nearly stifled his calling, how God challenged his ideas of “quality,” and how a red camera can’t compare to raw faith. They also challenge the culture in the church, explore the parable of the talents, and call out Christian platforms that destroy instead of disciple.

Whether you're buried under doubt or just waiting for a sign, this is your moment to dig deep and bring your gifts out of the dirt.

In This Episode:

• [00:05] Introduction to the podcast

• [00:39] Struggling to trust and obey God

• [01:16] Creating for God without perfection

• [02:07] Being a messenger, not the judge

• [03:00] The weight of sharing encounters

• [03:48] Impact of small acts of obedience

• [04:27] Understanding God’s messages

• [04:50] Empathy over judgment

• [05:43] Love covers and heals

• [07:45] Judgment and hypocrisy in the church

• [08:46] Love as the core of faith

• [09:24] Transformation and God’s victory

• [10:34] God uses the overlooked

• [13:05] Biblical examples of hidden value

• [13:49] Feeling unworthy of God’s calling

• [15:11] The parable of the talents

• [16:47] Responsibility to use our gifts

• [18:47] Faith and multiplication

• [19:40] Collaboration and purpose

• [20:20] Closing and call to action

Notable Quotes

• [02:06] “Obey God with what you got. He’ll make sure the volume is turned all the way up.” — Rod

• [05:44] “We all could be memes. But when do we start acting like Jesus and covering people instead of canceling them?” — Pastor E

• [09:11] “Love demonstrates. Love covers until it can show how to bring someone from their condition to a better state.” — Rod

• [10:18] “Not only is God writing your story… He’s the finisher who makes sure it gets in the hands of those who need it.” — Rod

• [12:46] “God gives glory by making treasure out of what others threw away.” — Pastor E

• [14:10] “It’s different when you start seeing the fruit of what God told you. It humbles you.” — Pastor E

• [19:40] “Whatever God gives you, He expects it to multiply.” — Pastor E

Resource and Links

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