Occupational therapist and author Kelsie Olds joins host Josh Olds to explore how we can better understand and support children by seeing the world from their perspective. Drawing from their book Your Child’s Point of View, Kelsie unpacks practical, empathetic approaches to parenting, challenges authoritarian power structures in faith and family, and reflects on what it means to truly treat children as whole human beings—at home, at school, and in church.

What does it mean to be marked by joy? In this episode, Josh Olds talks with Jared Mitzelfelt, author of Marked by Joy: Discovering the Joy That Defined the First Believers. Jared shares how a Bible study in 1 Peter sparked a personal journey to reclaim joy—not as a fleeting feeling, but as a defining mark of Christian identity. Together, they explore why joy has gone missing in much of today’s church, how we can get it back, and what it looks like to live with resilient, gospel-rooted joy.

In this episode of Ministry on the Margins, Dr. Josh Olds interviews leadership expert and seminary professor Dr. Angie Ward about her latest book, Beyond Church and Parachurch. Ward invites ministry leaders to move from institutional rivalry to collaborative mission, reshaping how we understand the church’s identity and reach in a post-Christian world.

Together, they reimagine church as an ecosystem—rather than competing institutions—and how that can unleash a deeper, more faithful witness. Whether you're a pastor, nonprofit leader, or layperson passionate about ministry, this episode will challenge and encourage you.

🗣️ In This Episode, You'll Hear:

• How Angie Ward’s ministry journey led her to reimagine the role of church and parachurch ministries
• Why institutional models often restrict collaboration and foster competition
• How to define the Church biblically, theologically, and missionally
• What a decentralized, Spirit-led ministry ecosystem might look like
• How to resist control and embrace open-handed leadership