In this episode of Minding Our Business, Jess and Jonesy sit down with Nicole Garrison and Christina Lees from PA Behavioral Services for a wildly honest, hilarious, and totally relatable convo about what it really looks like to protect your mental health while running a business.

They cover friendship and business boundaries, compartmentalizing chaos, why Zebra Cakes launched their partnership (yes, really), and how even therapists need therapy. This one’s got therapist insight with founder energy. No jargon, just real tools from real people.

Guests:

Nicole Garrison and Christina Lees, licensed professional counselors and co-founders of PA Behavioral Serviceshttps://pabehavioralservices.com

What We Talk About:

Shoutouts:

Bonus: We end with our signature high kick. Always.

What’s one coping tool or mental health practice that actually helps you get through tough entrepreneur days?

This week, Jess and Jonesy sit down with Nicole Cloud—a nurse, a mom, and a mental health warrior—to talk about what it's really like behind the scenes in healthcare. From overnight shifts and pandemic trauma to finding moments of peace and grounding (literally), Nicole gets real about burnout, boundaries, and the small rituals that help her stay afloat. This isn’t just about nurses. It’s about how we take care of ourselves while showing up for everyone else.

Show Notes

In this episode:

• Nicole's journey into nursing and what kept her going

• The emotional toll of healthcare work, especially during COVID

• Secondary trauma and how it shows up (and sticks around)

• Coping strategies Nicole swears by: working out, talking it out, touching grass

• Real talk on intrusive thoughts, burnout, and crying in hospital bathrooms

• Support systems that make all the difference—from coworkers to community gyms

• Why some patients are just... the worst (boomers, we’re looking at you)

• The power of being honest about how you feel—even when it’s messy

Plus: The gang debates pediatricians, primary care, and whether or not you should still be seeing your childhood doctor at 23 (spoiler: probably not).

📋 DESCRIPTION:
From Golden Gloves champion to entrepreneur and podcast host, Ron Marvo is no stranger to resilience. In this conversation with Jess and Jonesy, Ron shares how his underdog story shaped his mindset, the mentors who guided him, and why resilience is about more than just pushing through—it’s about knowing when to let go, adapt, and keep moving forward.

We dive into trust-building in business, overcoming setbacks, and the daily discipline it takes to serve others even when life gets messy. If you’ve ever felt like the odds were stacked against you, Ron’s story is proof that being the underdog can be your greatest advantage.

📝 SHOW NOTES:

What We Talk About:

• Ron’s early lessons in resilience—family, boxing, and fighting for a better future

• The power of mentorship and how a single conversation can change your trajectory

• From Audi sales to entrepreneurship: why relationships matter more than transactions

• Building trust in business and the “Seven Pillars of Killer Business Development”

• Why resilience isn’t just pushing through—it’s also knowing what to subtract

• How to leave your personal struggles at the door and still show up for others

• Ron’s philosophy: WTSD (“write that sh*t down”) and why words on paper can change everything

• The Great American Underdog podcast and community

Resources + Links:

• Listen to The Great American Underdog: YouTube | Spotify | Apple Podcasts

• Join Ron’s community: The Winner’s Circle

• Follow Ron on Instagram: @greatamericanunderdog

Ayurvedic Practitioner Angelique Flynn joins Jess and Jonesy for a deep dive into real self-care—and not the “spa day and forget” kind. We’re talking energy healing, burnout recovery, and the life-saving power of yoga, warm food, and five-minute resets. Angelique gets real about her 15-year recovery journey, what stress is doing to our bodies, and how to build better habits without flipping your life upside down.

Whether you're crushing it at work but crashing at home or just trying to manage stress without a drink in your hand, this episode is your permission slip to slow down, ground in, and choose something different.

📝 SHOW NOTES:

What We Talk About:

• Angelique’s 15-year recovery journey and why yoga became her lifeline

• How she went from meetings to the mat—and built a career around healing

• The real reason cold salads might be stressing you out

• What Ayurveda actually is (and how it connects to your mental health)

• Reiki, chakras, and “bad vibes” explained like real people talk

• Self-care for entrepreneurs: why five minutes matters more than you think

• The weekend burnout trap (and how to flip the script)

• Hot food = healing? Yes.

• Mini workplace stretch routine you can do while pretending to look busy

• Why grounding isn't just for hippies

• What happens when we ignore stress long-term (spoiler: it’s not good)

Resources + Links:

• Angelique’s Wellness in the Workplace video: [YouTube Link]

• Discover Your Dosha Workbook: [wholeimagewellness.com]

• “Oh No I Ate Dairy” Emergency Protocol: [wholeimagewellness.com]

Follow Angelique:
Website: wholeimagewellness.com
Instagram: @ayurveda_angelique

with Kelly McGlynn, LCSW

What happens when you’ve spent so much time in the patient’s seat that it shapes your entire purpose? In this episode, Jess and Jonesy sit down with psychotherapist Kelly McGlynn for a raw and honest look at what it really means to turn your personal healing into a professional mission.

Kelly shares how her own mental health journey led her to become a therapist later in life, how EMDR and DBT became pillars of her practice, and the surprising emotional weight that comes with holding space for others. We dive into secondary trauma, blurred boundaries, and why building a business from your pain is both powerful—and complicated.

This one’s for the founders, solopreneurs, and helpers who feel like the therapist in the room—even when it’s not your job.

Kelly is currently accepting new clients.

Want to connect? Her discovery calls are free, and if it’s not a fit, she’ll help you find someone who is. Because finding the right therapist? That’s everything.

Show Description:Show Notes:

This one hits close. Jess and Jonesy are back in the studio with no guest, no outline, just real life and real energy.

Jess gets raw about slipping out of routine, battling the inner critic (say hi to Benjamin), and the mental spiral that can happen when your nervous system's off track. She shares how it feels to be "down" and the slow climb back to feeling grounded, clear, and alive again.

Jonesy adds his own take on how mental health and routines impact productivity, how he pivots when things get chaotic, and what Filipino stick fighting has to do with balance. (Yes, it’s a thing. Yes, it’s awesome.)

They cover everything from:

If you’ve ever felt like you're doing all the right things but still feel off, this one’s for you. Come for the chaos, stay for the clarity.

Weekly Challenge:Jess commits to kicking Benjamin (her inner critic) to the curb and pivoting her schedule when things get rocky. Jonesy’s unplugging for one hour, twice a week, with no phone, no calendar, just him.

Your turn: What’s one commitment you’re making this week to take care of your well-being?

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This week, Jess and Jonesy are taking on that loud, obnoxious voice in your head that says you're not good enough. Yep, we're talking about the inner critic. Where it comes from, how it shows up in your business and personal life, and why naming it (hi Danielle, hi Benjamin) can help you take your power back.

Jess is literally shaking hers off. Jonesy’s giving his a seat at the table... just not the mic.

If you’ve ever second-guessed yourself, played small, or let fear drive the bus, this one’s for you.

What We Talk About:

Challenge for You:

Drop your inner critic’s name in the comments. Say it out loud. Claim it. Shut it down.

Mic Drop Moment:

“Danielle, unlike you, I can go to the gym about it.”

Mentioned in This Episode:

Welcome to the first-ever episode of Minding Our Business with Jess and Jonesy. We’re kicking things off by getting real about the one thing that’s shaped every win, every burnout, and every bounce-back in our entrepreneurial journeys: mindset.

Jess opens up about her struggles with depression, the power of self-awareness, and how DBT tools (yep, we’ll explain) became her lifeline. Jonesy shares how hockey, humor, and a therapy-savvy spouse have helped him navigate the chaos of running a business with anxiety.

We talk:

• Mental health as a business strategy

• The difference between proactive and reactive self-care

• Shame spirals, accountability groups, and the lies our inner critics love to tell

• Why your childhood hobbies might still be the key to your joy

• And how mindset isn't about just “thinking positive.” It's about doing the work daily, even when no one’s watching

This is founder well-being in full color. No fluff. No filters. Just two business owners talking about what it really takes to show up for your business and your life.

Drop one word in the comments to describe how you're feeling after this episode.

And if you're ready to build a business without burning yourself out, let's go.

Listen on MindOur.com, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you tune in.

Important note: We are not mental health professionals. Everything we share is based on personal experience and not a substitute for professional help. If you’re struggling, please reach out to a licensed therapist or medical provider.