Episodes

  • Building the Binance of Onchain: Inside Infinex’s Bold UX Bet | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
    May 28 2025

    Ask Messari Copilot: Can a full-stack, centralized-style experience coexist with crypto’s ethos of decentralization?


    See Copilot's Response: https://messari.io/copilot/share/centralization-vs-decentralization-5b85d971-6184-4512-9110-1598a3900bb8


    Kain Warwick breaks down how Infinex is rewriting the rules of crypto UX. From building its own wallet and signing infrastructure to full-stack app architecture, Infinex is ditching the dApp playbook to offer users a seamless, centralized-like experience—without sacrificing custody. If you're curious about the future of crypto applications and the battle to onboard the next wave of users, this one’s for you.


    00:42 Introductions

    1:05 Infinex Vision

    4:13 UX in Crypto

    5:45 User Growth

    8:12 How Infinex Works

    19:05 Scaling Infinex

    23:15 Competition

    31:42 Updates & Perception

    38:46 Kaito Plans

    42:15 Conclusion


    Hosted by Kinji Steimetz and Dylan Bane of Messari


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    43 mins
  • Tokenizing Everything: Are Internet Capital Markets Crypto’s Next Frontier? | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
    May 21 2025

    What does it really take to launch a token in 2025? The Enterprise team dives into the rise of Launchcoin and the emergence of Internet Capital Markets—an onchain movement redefining how tokens are created, distributed, and valued. From memecoin mechanics to institutional implications, this episode dissects the thesis and traction behind tokenized everything on Solana.


    💥 We also debate how to value L1s:

    → Is REV (Revenue) the most grounded valuation metric?

    → How do monetary premiums, economic security, and execution narratives shape prices?

    → Are current valuations justifiable—or wildly overblown?Plus, we touch on:

    - The Coinbase S&P 500 inclusion

    - BTC breaking 6 figures

    - Hyperliquid’s growth dilemma

    - Dylan’s DePIN Valuations report (featuring DRNs vs. PRNs)

    - What we’re doing onchain—from Tama.fun to HyperEVM farming


    💡 Ask Messari Copilot: How might tokenization tools like Launchcoin evolve to enable real equity, revenue sharing, or governance rights—and what regulatory or technical hurdles stand in the way?


    ✨ See Copilot's Response: https://messari.io/copilot/share/tokenization-s-future-equity-revenue-and-governance-d63e860a-1b2e-49da-8f64-f6ea5ecd3fe6


    00:39 Introductions

    1:13 Market Update

    7:12 Coinbase in S&P

    11:55 Analyst Forecast

    13:27 How to Value L1s

    36:09 IPO Multiples

    38:24 Internet Capital Markets

    46:19 Hyperliquid & Bear Case

    59:52 On-Chain Stuff

    1:11:44 Conclusion


    Hosted by Matthew Nay of Messari



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    1 hr and 12 mins
  • Are We Really Back? AI Subnets, BTC Surge & Stablecoin Wars | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
    May 7 2025

    We're back with Episode 4 of Shoot the Sh*t Fully Diluted Podcast, where the Messari Enterprise team dives deep into what’s fueling crypto’s recent momentum.


    Join Matthew Nay and the Enterprise team (Sunny Shi, Kinji Steimetz, Andrew Dyer, Chris Davis & Dylan Bane) as they shoot the sh*t about:


    🔹 Macro trends: BTC’s outperformance, S&P's rally, and tariff drama between the US and China.

    🔹 AI subnets & decentralized training: BitTensor’s shoots, gradients, and more.

    🔹 Ethereum’s L1 scaling push: Is this the turnaround moment for ETH?

    🔹 Stablecoin meta: Mastercard x Circle, Ripple’s rumored bid for Circle, and more.

    🔹 Hyperliquid flywheel: HIP3, staking incentives, and why it might be the next top-10 protocol.

    🔹 Onchain activity check-in: Launchpad wars, NFT grinds, and Treeverse MMOs.


    This one’s jam-packed. Whether you’re macro-curious, AI-obsessed, or just tracking new alt metas—there’s alpha for everyone.


    💡 Ask Messari Copilot: What would it take for Ethereum L1 to recapture DeFi mindshare from L2s and alt L1s—performance, incentives, or something entirely different?


    ✨ See Copilot's Response: https://messari.io/copilot/share/ethereum-l1-defi-comeback-bebd6c1a-a97f-49d2-98c4-136ca02b558c


    00:44 Introductions

    1:10 Market Sentiment

    15:48 Ethereum Foundation

    25:11 AI Adoption

    36:57 DePIN Projects

    39:45 Energy & Crypto

    41:31 Crypto Payments

    56:15 EVM Innovations

    1:05:10 On-Chain Projects

    1:12:08 Conclusion


    Hosted by Matthew Nay of Messari



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    1 hr and 13 mins
  • Building Real-World Utility: DePIN, AI, and Crypto’s Future | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
    May 1 2025

    What’s really holding crypto back? It’s not infrastructure—it’s product.


    In this episode of Fully Diluted, Hivemapper CEO Ariel Seidman joins Messari’s Dylan Bane to unpack the deep infrastructure powering Hivemapper’s decentralized global map—and why real utility, not hype, is the key to crypto’s next chapter.


    0:50 Introductions

    4:02 HiveMapper Intro

    12:13 Market Demand

    18:55 Token Model

    29:20 Regulation & Adoptio

    36:05 Crypto Culture

    38:56 App Layer & Roadmap

    46:04 Conclusion


    Hosted by Dylan Bane of Messari



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    47 mins
  • Crypto Built the Casino — Can It Build Infrastructure Too? | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
    Apr 30 2025

    In this episode of Fully Diluted, Pranav Kanade and Wyatt Lonergan from VanEck Digital Assets are joined by Kinji Steimetz and Dylan Bane from Messari to explore the evolution of crypto beyond speculation.


    They dive deep into tokenization, stablecoins, the rise of real-world assets (RWA), and how stablecoin-powered infrastructure could reshape global payments and financial access.


    The conversation spans market structure reforms, the future of tokenized equities, the critical path for Deepin networks, and the competitive dynamics among base layers like Solana and MegaETH.


    Learn why the industry's future success depends not on better casinos—but on rewarding real, productive innovation.


    0:46 Introductions

    5:41 Stablecoin Use

    15:53 Tokenized Assets

    23:33 On-Chain Limits

    28:15 DePIN Infrastructure

    44:53 Base Layers

    51:24 Conclusion


    Hosted by Kinji Steimetz and Dylan Bane of Messari


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    52 mins
  • MegaETH Breaks Through, Mantra Breaks Down | STS Ep. 3 | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
    Apr 23 2025

    We're back with Episode 3 of Shoot the Sh*t Pod — and this one’s stacked.

    Join Matthew Nay and the Enterprise team (Sunny Shi, Kinji Steimetz, Andrew Dyer, Chris Davis & Dylan Bane) as they dive into:

    🔹 Real-time blockchains: MegaETH is setting a new bar.

    🔹 AI Roasting & CT Drama: AIXBT is back on its BS, targeting Sunny in a wild Twitter roast.

    🔹 Macro madness: Talking stagflation risks, Fed policy, and market sentiment.

    🔹 Token volatility: What happened with Mantra?

    🔹 Content coins vs. memecoins: The Base/Zora launch sparked a frenzy.

    🔹 Gaming onchain: MegaETH’s Crossy Road-style demo shows what fast infra can unlock.

    🔹 Decentralization vs. performance: Where are devs and users really drawing the line in 2025?


    00:00 Introductions

    1:05 AI Roasting

    4:23 Macro Environment

    20:20 Token Volatility

    30:46 Tokenization & Utility

    48:54 Decentralization

    51:51 Conclusion


    Hosted by Matthew Nay of Messari


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    This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.

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    52 mins
  • How The Innovation Game Is Crowdsourcing Better Algorithms | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
    Apr 16 2025

    Ask Messari Copilot: How can decentralized protocols change the economics of R&D in science and AI?


    See Copilot's Response: https://messari.io/copilot/share/decentralizing-r-d-economics-069debfe-3e9a-4281-8c5c-442e829d94b5


    How do we incentivize the next great algorithm? Why does open-source AI matter more than ever in a world of geopolitical tension and centralized power?


    In this episode, we dive deep with John Fletcher—physicist, mathematician, and creator of The Innovation Game—to explore a decentralized protocol for algorithm development, the future of AI scaling, and how crypto can align incentives for global innovation. From AI arms races to source separation in music production, this conversation spans the spectrum of science, strategy, and society.


    Read Their Recent Blog To Learn More: https://medium.com/@tigfoundation/the-innovation-game-how-a-market-for-open-algorithms-sets-science-free-b2eb6abcaa1e


    00:50 Introductions

    2:20 Protocol Basics

    8:23 Algorithmic Use Cases

    12:46 Historical Context

    18:27 Open Source Challenges

    24:47 Predictability

    29:25 Scaling and Global Talent

    36:08 Licensing

    42:36 Geopolitics

    50:42 Inspiration

    53:37 Conclusion


    Hosted by Chris Davis of Messari


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    55 mins
  • Cooked or Still Cooking? | Fully Diluted with Messari Research | Unqualified Opinions
    Apr 10 2025

    Ask Messari Copilot: What are the most promising models for scaling DePIN infrastructure?

    See Copilot's Response: https://messari.io/copilot/share/scaling-deepin-infrastructure-models-ffbd3d95-53c1-4cdc-98cd-58d36f43250a


    In this week’s episode, the Messari Research team breaks down the latest market narratives—from DePIN’s growing pains to macro risks and app consolidation on Solana. We’re talking tariff chaos, Circle’s IPO delay, gaming tokenomics, and what we’re actually doing onchain during all the volatility.


    The Analysts Discuss:

    📡 DePIN Revenue: Can protocols like Helium, GEODNET, and Glowe scale?

    📉 Macro: Tariffs, market uncertainty, and crypto relative strength

    🏦 Circle IPO: Why it got delayed and what that means for stablecoins

    🧬 Solana: Super apps, vertical integration, and the memecoin washout

    🎮 Gaming: Token design, GUN launch fallout, and consolidation

    🔬 Infra: MegaETH testnet and why infra still matters

    🧪 Onchain Life: What the team’s farming, testing, and feeding (yes, Mega E-fluffs)


    00:00 Introductions

    1:06 Tariff Fallout

    12:16 Circle IPO Delay

    19:30 Superapp Thesis

    28:07 State of Gaming

    32:03 Cycle Analysis

    38:22 DePIN Tokenomics

    44:30 Current Interests

    53:28 Conclusion


    Hosted by Matthew Nay of Messari


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    54 mins