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Liminal Leadership

Liminal Leadership

By: Josh Hugo and John Clark
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This is Liminal Leadership—a podcast aimed at helping leaders embrace the discomfort and power of leading themselves and others in the midst of it all. We blend real insight with practical tools to help you lead with self-awareness, purpose, and influence—wherever you are on your leadership journey.

Learn more about the work both Josh and John to support leaders by visiting our websites:

John Clark, Founder of Best Days Consulting: bestdaysconsulting.org

Josh Hugo, Founder of PIQ Strategies: piqstrategies.com

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  • What Is Liminal Leadership? Leading from the In-Betwixt and In-Between

    What Is Liminal Leadership? Leading from the In-Betwixt and In-Between
    Aug 12 2025

    In our very first episode, hosts Josh Hugo and John Clark unpack the concept of Liminal Leadership—leading from the “in-betwixt and in-between” spaces where most leadership actually happens. We explore why leadership from the middle matters, what “liminal” really means, and how to navigate the tensions of being responsible without full authority.

    Whether you’re an emerging leader, a middle manager, or a senior leader working to better support your team, this episode blends self-awareness, purpose-driven leadership, and practical tools to help you lead with clarity and influence. We share our personal journeys, reflect on lessons learned, and set the stage for the conversations and strategies to come.

    Key topics in this episode:

    • Defining “liminal” and the in-betwixt and in-between of leadership

    • Why leadership in the middle is different—and critical

    • How influence matters more than authority

    • Balancing self-reflection with actionable leadership strategies

    If you’ve ever felt caught between managing up and leading down, or you’re looking for ways to lead more effectively from where you are, this is where your journey starts.
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