In this third and final episode in the “Lets talk about the future” series, Meri Fatin hosts a conversation bristling with optimism and laughter as industry experts discuss the beginning of a new journey for arts and tourism, and how the two sectors can coordinate efforts to share strategies and open the curtain into each other’s worlds.

Joining the conversation is former journalist Di Bain, the Deputy Lord Mayor of City Perth and Chair of Tourism Western Australia, designer and director Mark Howett who is the Director of Place management for Arts and Culture Trust, and visual artist and urban designer Helen Curtis, the founder and director of creative consultancy Apparatus.

Together they talk about the new Tourism WA marketing campaign, whether we might have seen the end of cultural cringe for Western Australians, how there is only one Boorloo and much more.

• The new Tourism WA campaign Walking on a Dream features First Nations dancers Rika Hamaguchi and Ian Wilkes
• Mark Howett is Director of Place management at the Arts and Culture Trust
• Helen Curtis is the founder and director of creative consultancy Apparatus
• Boorna Waanginy (The Trees Speak) illuminated Kings Park in a magical immersion of sights and sounds for the 2017 Perth International Arts Festival (now Perth Festival), returning in 2019 and drawing more than 200,000 visitors.
• The State and Federal Governments recently pledged $104 million to build a world-class Aboriginal cultural centre.
• Seesaw Magazine investigates further in the feature article "Let's talk about the future: Making the tourism dream a reality".

This podcast was recorded 7 September 2022 at the RTRFM studio. It was produced by Seesaw Magazine in partnership with the Chamber of Arts and Culture WA with the support of Lotterywest.