Lawrence Mbaki grew up in Cape Town, South Africa and immigrated with his family to Cedar City, UT about 6 years ago. He currently attends Southern Utah University and is double majoring in Theater arts and music education.

In this episode, I talk with Lawrence about his journey from growing up in the Congo and South Africa to building a life in the United States. Lawrence shares what it was like to grow up surrounded by vastly different cultures, and how those experiences shaped his deep respect for people of all backgrounds, religions, and beliefs. Quoting To Kill a Mockingbird, he reminds us that “you never really understand a person until you climb into their skin and walk around in it.” Our conversation touches on the political history of South Africa, the power of democracy, and why being an educated voter—one who thinks critically and does their own research—is such an essential part of honoring that power.

We also dive into what it means to truly make space for others, with Lawrence’s beautiful philosophy of “making room at the table.” He talks about the challenges of immigrating to the U.S. and how our society can sometimes lack openness to different cultures—but also how he’s found hope in human connection. Lawrence believes that most people are good at heart, even when their circumstances force them to make difficult choices to survive. This episode is a moving reminder that empathy, kindness, and curiosity can be powerful tools in building bridges.

🎥 Check out Lawrence’s TED Talk here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEXAYn7sW1o&t=3s

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