This episode of Off the Gravel Road invites listeners into the joyful, curious, and surprisingly profound world of two young campers—Charlotte and Eleanor—who attended Cow Camp at TL Storer. The conversation begins with host Robb Ellis setting the scene: TL Storer is a place where children from the local community gather for day camp activities like fishing, hiking, and arts and crafts. But this year brought something new and transformative—a focus on cows, soil, and the interconnectedness of land stewardship.

Charlotte and Eleanor are introduced as special guests, ages eight and nine, respectively. Both spent part of their summer learning about cows, soil, and outdoor life at Cow Camp. Their personalities immediately shine through—playful, direct, and refreshingly candid.

When asked about their favorite things learned at camp, Eleanor highlights archery—an activity that gave her both skill and confidence. Charlotte, meanwhile, emphasizes learning about soil. While archery connects to personal development and physical activity, soil opens up the realm of ecological systems and interdependence. Charlotte noted that soil is 'mushy,' while Eleanor observed that it looks like 'chocolate cake,' both aligning with childlike wonder and ecological truths.

When asked how they might explain soil’s importance to a friend or sibling, Charlotte says simply, 'You’re gonna learn a lot.' Eleanor adds that kids should 'come here all the time.' Both statements underscore the value of hands-on experiences—education not delivered through lectures but lived through fun, curiosity, and play.

The conversation broadens to include school and extracurricular life. Both girls are excited to return to school, each with favorite aspects—Charlotte enjoys meeting teachers, while Eleanor loves gym. They also share excitement about their involvement in jiu-jitsu, proudly noting their new belt levels.

The girls share stories about their pets, ranging from lifelong chihuahuas to cats that dislike everyone. Eleanor recalls having a fish, while Charlotte introduces listeners to her dogs Ben and Biff. They also speak fondly of Oscar, the library cat, and describe their love of reading, including Harry Potter and other story time books.

The conversation closes with a reminder: caring for the land can be simple and fun. The girls’ voices bring authenticity to this message. They have dug in soil, laughed at manure, learned about microbes, and felt the responsibility of stewardship—all without losing the joy of play.

The episode ends with gratitude to the Storer Ranchers 4-H Club, which meets monthly at TL Storer and is currently undertaking restoration projects like rebuilding a 1968 Oliver tractor and a 1971 Ford FE motor. These details tie the children’s experiences to a broader network of youth programs, trades education, and intergenerational community engagement.

1. Soil as Foundation of Life – Their discovery mirrors scientific discussions of soil texture and organic matter.
2. Livestock and Regenerative Agriculture – Their recognition of grazing and manuring aligns with adaptive grazing principles.
3. Youth Education Through Experience – They embody John Dewey’s philosophy that education is not preparation for life but life itself.
4. Community Anchors: Libraries and Camps – The library and TL Storer serve as spaces for curiosity and belonging.
5. Building Future Citizens – Their ideas about picking up trash and saving animals highlight early civic values.