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In this deeply honest and nourishing episode, Linda and Heather sit down again with our dear friend Cecile Terrillon for a conversation on capacity: what it is, how we lose it, and how we rebuild it slowly, gently, and sustainably over time. We explore the nervous system’s role in capacity, the impact of grief and motherhood, and how life often forces us to slow down when we won’t do it ourselves. This episode is a gentle invitation to honor your humanity, feel what you’ve been avoiding, and start again, with 1% more space than before.

We Chat About:

• What “capacity” really means and why it matters in creative and everyday life
• Cecile’s personal story of burnout, estrangement, and starting over from the ground up
• How to identify when you’re outside your capacity (even if you’re high-functioning)
• Why resistance, grief, and discomfort often arise when we try to slow down
• Building capacity in the body through nervous system work and micro-moments of rest
• The difference between numbing and true rest—and why we don’t have to judge the former
• How desire and frustration coexist when your capacity doesn’t match your ambition
• What sustainable growth looks like across different areas of life, including movement, business, and motherhood
• A behind-the-scenes update on what’s shifting with the podcast and the Jumping Bean Magic Collective

Our Guest:

Cécile Terrillon is an embodiment teacher and medicine woman who challenges the societal norm of forcing and pushing to stay productive at all costs, and instead - invites us into resting, slowing down, and investing into the health and stability of our bodies and nervous systems.

By reconnecting to our body’s boundaries and navigating the relationship between capacity and desire, we begin to halt the patterns of people pleasing, performing, and proving ourselves. It is from this place that we discover who we are underneath the masks, and gain capacity to share and express ourselves authentically.

Through deep listening and emotional attunement, Cécile holds her clients with tenderness and love through the fears that accompany this work, yet brilliantly calls forth the truth you already know and cannot ignore.

Connect with Cecile:

Instagram: @cecile.terrillon

Jumping Bean Magic Collective:

www.jumpingbeanmagiccollective.com

Instagram: @jumpingbeanmagiccollective

Linda Lewis:

www.lindalewcreative.com

Heather Manwaring:

www.heathermanwaring.com

Chapters:

00:00 – Welcome + Introduction

01:00 – What Is Capacity? Cecile’s Framework

03:00 – Burnout, Disconnection, and the Journey to Rest

08:00 – The Vow to Never Force Again

11:00 – Cecile’s Rock Bottom and the Truth of Tiny Capacity

15:00 – Starting Where You Are (Even If That Means the Floor)

20:00 – The Practice of Pausing + Listening to the Body

24:00 – Feeling Grief and Exhaustion Without Overwhelm

28:00 – What to Do When Life Requires You to Override

30:00 – Releasing Unfelt Emotions to Create More Space

33:00 – Technology as Numbing + The Power of Choosing Presence

35:00 – Raising Capacity Thro

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Creative Energy Podcast: www.wearecreativeenergy.com

Linda Lewis: www.lindalewcreative.com

Heather Manwaring: www.heathermanwaring.com

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In this conversation, Kelsey shares her creative journey, detailing her early influences from family, her experiences in acting, and how these shaped her musical career. She reflects on the importance of her upbringing in a creative environment, the role of teachers in her development, and her transition into songwriting and performance. Kelsey also discusses the emotional connections she draws from film and music, and how these experiences have influenced her artistic expression. In this conversation, the speaker reflects on their journey through performance, creativity, and self-discovery. They discuss the early days of performing in high school, the influences that shaped their artistic expression, and the challenges faced in navigating creative relationships. The speaker emphasizes the importance of self-care and trust in oneself, as well as the rediscovery of dance as a means of reconnecting with their identity. They share insights on maintaining a creative practice and the significance of showing up consistently, regardless of the scale of the effort. In this engaging conversation, the speakers explore the themes of endurance in creativity, the importance of returning to basics for inspiration, and the influence of family and ancestry on artistic expression. They discuss how creativity can be nurtured through consistent practice and the significance of personal experiences in shaping one's artistic journey. The conversation also touches on the challenges of creative blocks and the ways to overcome them, emphasizing the value of showing up and engaging with one's craft.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Kelsey's Creative Journey
02:47 Family Influences and Early Musical Foundations
06:02 The Role of Acting in Kelsey's Creativity
09:09 Inspiration from Film and Music
11:59 The Impact of Teachers on Creative Development
15:03 Transitioning to High School and Musical Experiences
18:01 First Steps in Songwriting and Performance
31:05 The Early Days of Performance
34:32 Creative Inspirations and Teenage Experiences
37:41 The Impact of Environment on Creativity
39:15 Rediscovering Dance and Identity
45:57 Navigating Creative Relationships
51:00 The Importance of Self-Trust
53:15 Current Creative Practices and Self-Care
01:03:16 Endurance in Creativity
01:05:07 Returning to Basics for Inspiration
01:06:38 Exploring Creative Energy Beyond Music
01:11:07 The Impact of Family on Creativity
01:17:26 Ancestry and Its Influence on Artistic Expression
01:20:39 Connecting with the Artist: How to Find Kelsey Klein

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Creative Energy Podcast: www.wearecreativeenergy.com

Linda Lewis: www.lindalewcreative.com

Heather Manwaring: www.heathermanwaring.com