Writer Jane Borden joins us to talk about her sensational book Cults Like Us: Why Doomsday Thinking Drives Americawherein she traces this country's fundamental and foundational cultishness from the puritans to MLMs and beyond. Jane and I used to work at Time Out New York together and I am so impressed by this tome. Plus, it's funny. We talk about religion, the Church of England, when she started noticing cult like thinking in America, covering cults for Vanity Fair, thought-terminating cliches, materialism, the hairstylist she recommended to me, improv, this present political moment and so much more. Plus we did a round of Just Me Or Everyone and Podcast Pals Product Picks.

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