Jelani talks with Joy Cho, creative director, designer, author, Thai American, and mother.

Joy is the founder of Oh Joy! and has collaborated with brands like Target, Band-Aid, Petco, and so many more. She’s done 40 licensing partnerships to date, creating colorful, and incredibly designed products. Joy also happens to hold the record for the most followers of any influencer on Pinterest at 15+ million.

Here’s the thing about Joy though: just like Jelani and many others, she’s an introvert. She doesn’t recharge when there’s a bunch of people around her, but rather in those quiet moments by herself. The child of immigrants, this conversation gets into how Joy’s learned to keep the good things she got from her parents while evolving to fit with her family today.

Jelani and Joy talk about how the key to parenting might just be flexibility. Flexibility with how you think things are supposed to go and how they actually go. Flexibility with the different stages of your kids' lives. And flexibility to balance work, home, life, and everything else.

Joy has this parenting thing figured out, and we’re so excited to share this conversation with you.

Learn more about Joy at her site, ​​ohjoy.com.

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