Episodes

  • The Instability of Truth with Rebecca Lemov
    May 21 2025

    In this enlightening episode, Rachel engages in a deep conversation with Rebecca Lemov, a historian of science at Harvard University, whose research focuses on brainwashing, mind control, and hyper persuasion. As they explore the malleability of truth and identity, Rebecca shares her journey from anthropology to the history of science, where her fascination with brainwashing began during her dissertation at UC Berkeley. Together, they discuss the complexities of self-concept, especially for those who have experienced high-control environments, and how individuals often struggle to reclaim their identities after manipulation.


    Throughout their discussion, Rachel and Rebecca delve into the psychological impact of coercive relationships and the disorienting effects of being told what to believe. They touch on personal anecdotes and broader societal issues, including the crisis of trust in contemporary discourse and the challenges of discerning truth in a world filled with misinformation. Rebecca emphasizes the importance of recognizing one's own experiences as a source of truth, rather than relying solely on external narratives.


    As they navigate the intricacies of memory and perception, the conversation highlights the need for self-awareness and critical thinking in understanding one's place within manipulative systems. This episode serves as a powerful reminder of the resilience required to reclaim autonomy and the significance of community and support in the journey towards healing.



    Purchase THE INSTABILITY OF TRUTH: Brainwashing, Mind Control and Hyper-Persuasion here:

    ⁠https://wwnorton.com/books/9781324075264⁠


    Find out more about Rebecca and her work here:

    ⁠⁠https://rebeccalemov.com/⁠⁠


    Find links to Rebecca's other books & articles here:

    ⁠https://histsci.fas.harvard.edu/people/rebecca-lemov⁠

    Listen to the Bob Dylan song Rebecca referenced, "A Hard Rain Is Gonna Fall" here:

    https://youtu.be/T5al0HmR4to?si=w4M4ZX1yy9T4nzoO

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    IndoctriNation is edited by The Podcast Consultant:

    https://thepodcastconsultant.com/about

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    1 hr and 20 mins
  • BONUS EPISODE PREVIEW: Apocalyptic Thinking pt. 1
    May 16 2025

    This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠

    ⁠https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination⁠


    In this thought-provoking bonus episode, Rachel dives into the complex world of apocalyptic thinking, exploring its historical roots and psychological implications. This first part of a two-part series examines how apocalyptic beliefs have persisted through time, often gaining traction during periods of societal unrest and uncertainty. Rachel discusses the mindset that emphasizes imminent destruction and personal salvation, drawing connections to the behaviors and attitudes seen in high-control groups.


    Throughout the episode, Rachel highlights the dangerous detachment from present responsibilities that apocalyptic thinking can foster. She shares insights on how individuals may withdraw from forming meaningful connections and planning for the future when consumed by the belief that the world is ending. The discussion touches on the psychological mechanisms that enable violent ideologies within militant apocalyptic groups, where individuals rationalize extreme actions as necessary for a greater good.


    Rachel also delves into the modern manifestations of apocalyptic thought, linking it to contemporary concerns such as climate change, nuclear threats, and technological advancements. By examining these themes, she sheds light on how apocalyptic narratives provide structure and meaning, especially during crises, and how they can lead to collective movements driven by a shared vision of doom.


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    IndoctriNation is edited by The Podcast Consultant:

    ⁠https://thepodcastconsultant.com/about


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    6 mins
  • Behind the Curtain of Landmark with Michael Yoder
    May 14 2025

    In this thought-provoking episode, Rachel engages in a captivating conversation with Michael Yoder, a writer and composer from Victoria, British Columbia. Michael shares his personal journey through the Landmark Forum, a self-help program that he initially found appealing but soon discovered to be rife with manipulative tactics and coercive practices. As he recounts his experiences, Michael reveals the unsettling similarities he observed between Landmark and other high-control groups, including Scientology and Jehovah's Witnesses.


    Throughout their discussion, Michael reflects on the psychological pressures that participants face, from the initial allure of transformation to the harsh realities of life within the program. He candidly describes the confessional nature of the Forum, where individuals are pushed to declare their intentions and confront their perceived shortcomings in front of others, often leading to feelings of shame and betrayal. Rachel and Michael delve into the language used in these groups, unpacking terms like "transformation" and "getting complete," which often serve to obscure the true nature of the experience and keep participants engaged.


    As they explore the aftermath of Michael's departure from Landmark, he emphasizes the importance of critical thinking and self-awareness in recognizing the manipulative dynamics at play in high-control environments. This episode serves as a powerful reminder of the resilience required to reclaim one's autonomy and the value of sharing personal stories to foster understanding and healing.


    Check out Michael's book "Scattering Ashes"-

    US:

    https://www.amazon.com/Scattering-Ashes-Michael-Yoder/dp/0992029961

    CA:

    https://www.amazon.ca/Scattering-Ashes-Michael-Yoder/

    E-book:

    https://www.kobo.com/ca/en/ebook/the-scattering-of-ashes-1


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    Indoctrination is edited by The Podcast Consultant:

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    1 hr and 22 mins
  • Cult Hopping Chronicles pt. 2: Unraveling The Threads Of Control with Cara Cordoni
    May 7 2025

    In this powerful conclusion to Rachel's conversation with Cara Cordoni, the complexities of navigating high-control environments are brought to light. Cara, a seasoned leadership coach and survivor of multiple cult experiences, shares her harrowing journey through the International School of Temple Arts (ISTA) and the manipulative tactics employed within such groups. Picking up from the previous episode, Cara details her experiences with coercive practices that blur the lines of consent and personal agency.


    Throughout their discussion, Rachel and Cara unpack the psychological impact of being pushed into uncomfortable situations under the guise of personal growth. Cara reflects on her initial excitement about ISTA's promises of sexual and spiritual liberation, only to find herself entangled in a web of emotional manipulation and boundary violations. They delve into the dangerous dynamics of groupthink, the pressure to conform, and the insidious normalization of harmful practices that can lead to profound emotional distress.


    As they explore the aftermath of these experiences, Cara emphasizes the importance of community support and the need for accountability within such organizations. She shares her work with 3SC, which aims to collect harm reports and advocate for safer practices in spiritual spaces. This episode serves as a crucial reminder of the resilience required to reclaim one's voice and agency after experiencing manipulation and coercion.


    For anyone seeking to understand the nuances of consent, personal agency, and the potential dangers of high-control groups, this episode offers invaluable insights and a call to action for greater awareness and advocacy.


    Listen To Cara's First Episode Here:

    https://www.podpage.com/indoctrination/cult-hopping-chronicles-pt-1-a-journey-through-control-and-liberation-with-cara-cardoni/


    Read the New Yorker Magazine Article on ISTA here:

    ⁠https://www.thecut.com/article/the-neo-tantric-sex-group-that-promised-to-change.html⁠


    You can learn more about Cara's advocacy work at the 3SC community here:

    ⁠http://3sc.community/⁠


    Learn more about Cara's leadership coaching and support groups at:

    ⁠https://www.caracordonicoaching.com/⁠


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    Indoctrination is edited by The Podcast Consultant:

    ⁠https://thepodcastconsultant.com/about

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    1 hr and 24 mins
  • BONUS EPISODE PREVIEW-The Dynamics of Consent: Freedom vs. Coercion pt. 2
    May 2 2025

    This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at:⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination


    In this enlightening continuation of our Patreon exclusive bonus episode, Rachel delves deeper into the intricate and often misrepresented topic of consent, particularly within high-control groups and cults. Picking up from the first part, Rachel emphasizes the critical distinction between genuine consent and the coercive situations that often arise in these environments. She explores how individuals are manipulated into giving consent they never truly agreed to, discussing the psychological impacts of such violations, including emotional numbing, dissociation, and the erosion of personal boundaries.


    Throughout the episode, Rachel outlines the various forms of exploitation that occur within cults, from forced labor and financial extortion to sexual exploitation and medical neglect. She highlights how these manipulative tactics can lead to a profound loss of autonomy and a sense of helplessness among members. As she unpacks the complexities of reclaiming one's consent, Rachel provides actionable insights for listeners on how to recognize manipulation, trust their instincts, and rebuild their personal agency after leaving such environments.


    With a focus on the importance of ongoing consent, Rachel encourages listeners to redefine their understanding of consent in a way that empowers them to assert their boundaries, even in the face of social pressure. This episode serves as a vital resource for anyone looking to navigate the challenges of reclaiming their autonomy and understanding the nuances of consent in their lives.


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    6 mins
  • Cult Hopping Chronicles pt. 1: A Journey Through Control and Liberation with Cara Cordoni
    Apr 30 2025

    In this compelling episode, Rachel engages in a deep and revealing conversation with Cara Cordoni, a certified leadership coach and survivor of multiple cult experiences. This is part one of their two-part discussion, where Cara shares her journey through the labyrinth of cults, from her early encounters with a charismatic individual in San Francisco to her experiences with organized religions and large group awareness trainings.

    As Cara recounts her story, she reflects on the psychological manipulation and emotional hooks that kept her entangled in these environments for years. She candidly discusses the allure of belonging and the seductive nature of charismatic leadership, revealing how her vulnerabilities were exploited and how her journey led her to form the organization 3SC, advocating for safer spiritual communities.

    Throughout the episode, Rachel and Cara delve into the complexities of human connection, the desire for validation, and the often unseen dynamics that drive individuals toward controlling relationships. Cara's insights illuminate the importance of self-awareness and the need to reclaim one's power after experiencing manipulation and coercion. Her story serves as a poignant reminder of the resilience of the human spirit and the ongoing journey of healing and self-discovery.

    Read the New Yorker Magazine Article on ISTA here:

    https://www.thecut.com/article/the-neo-tantric-sex-group-that-promised-to-change.html


    You can learn more about Cara's advocacy work at the 3SC community here:

    http://3sc.community/


    Learn more about Cara's leadership coaching and support groups at:

    https://www.caracordonicoaching.com/


    Connect with us on social media:

    ⁠https://linktr.ee/indoctrination⁠


    Watch full video episodes of IndoctriNation here:

    ⁠https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jS⁠


    Your support is crucial! Join us on Patreon at:

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    Indoctrination is edited by The Podcast Consultant:

    https://thepodcastconsultant.com/about

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    1 hr and 15 mins
  • UNLOCKED BONUS EPISODE-Chaos & Control: Navigating Information Overload PT. 1
    Apr 23 2025

    I originally released this episode as a Patreon exclusive, but I'm making this episode available to all listeners due to its timely relevance to current events. As our nation experiences unprecedented political turbulence, understanding how to process the constant flow of information becomes more important than ever. In Chaos and Control part 1, I tackle the overwhelming phenomenon of information overload - a challenge that has become increasingly critical in our fast-paced and chaotic world.


    I explore how the constant stream of negative news can lead to mental exhaustion and impair our critical thinking, particularly when dealing with manipulative systems and toxic political environments. While steering clear of partisan views, I focus on revealing the tactics employed by politicians and media organizations to shape public perception. This analysis is crucial for maintaining clarity in today's political landscape. Throughout the episode, I provide concrete strategies for managing information overload. I share practical techniques for maintaining mental well-being while staying informed, including how to take strategic breaks from news consumption and focus on key issues that truly matter. I hope this episode helps you during these times.


    This is part 1 of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear part 2 by becoming a member at: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination

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    25 mins
  • BONUS EPISODE PREVIEW-The Dynamics of Consent: Freedom vs. Coercion pt. 1
    Apr 18 2025

    This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at:

    ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination


    In this thought-provoking bonus episode, Rachel dives deep into the complex and often misunderstood topic of consent. With a powerful exploration of how consent can be manipulated, she highlights the crucial differences between genuine consent and compliance born out of fear, obligation, or guilt. Drawing on insights from the Consent Awareness Network, Rachel emphasizes the importance of informed, enthusiastic, and knowledgeable consent and how it must always be revocable.


    Throughout the discussion, Rachel addresses the myriad ways in which individuals can be coerced into giving consent, whether in relationships, social situations, or even cult environments. She sheds light on the psychological tactics used to undermine true autonomy, including isolation, gaslighting, and emotional manipulation. With poignant examples, she illustrates how these tactics can distort one's understanding of consent and lead to a false sense of obligation.


    This episode serves as an essential resource for anyone looking to understand the nuances of consent and the importance of setting boundaries. Rachel encourages listeners to reflect on their own experiences and consider the times they may have felt pressured to comply rather than freely consent.


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    5 mins