Michael Bungay Stanier is the founder of Box of Crayons, a training organization helping organizations with practical coaching skills rooted in curiosity. He's also the author of eight books that have sold more than 2 million copies, including the Coaching Habit and How to Work with Anyone. He's the winner of the Thinkers50 Coaching Award and is focused on helping transformational leaders seek a d find modern change mastery.

In this episode, Chris and Michael discuss the key turning points that shaped Michael's career, from selling millions of copies of his books to defining his personal mission of infecting people with the possibility virus.

They explore what it really means to create impact, how to know when to walk away from a project (even after heavy investment), and Michael's perspective on legacy.

IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:

• The importance of making the braver choice in everyday moments
• Recognizing when your work has lost its sense of purpose
• Balancing love for your work with the reality of tasks you simply don’t enjoy
• Why brevity and curation are the ultimate skills for authors, speakers, and creators

EPISODE TIMESTAMPS:

• 03:51 - Reflecting on Key Career Moments
• 08:05 - The Coaching Habit and Its Impact
• 14:33 - Launching the Change Signal Podcast
• 17:08 - Realizing the Podcast's Purpose
• 20:41 - Thoughts on Legacy
• 24:08 - The Importance of Open-Mindedness
• 27:09 - Dealing with Burnout and Finding Purpose
• 32:39 - The Truth About Writing Books

RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

• Pre-Order The Long-Haul Leader
• Connect with Chris on Instagram
• Check Out Michael's Books
• Subscribe to Michael's Podcast, Change Signal
• Connect with Michael on Instagram

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