Breaking the tradition of how Max usually hears about music (that is to say late), he discusses the 2018 Twenty One Pilots album Trench, the world incased within it's tracks, the strong use of symbolism, and somehow also Danny Elfman.

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On the subject of American poet Kenneth Fearing, Aaron discusses how modernist poetry evolved out of a World War and The Great Depression which created the perfect environment for Fearing's cynical and anti-consumerist poetry. Aaron also drops some hate on post modernist poetry.

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While discussing the 2017 SOPHIE album, Oil of Every Pearl's Un-Insides - an album well deserving of focused discussion - Max and Aaron also manage to talk about Rick Rubin, grilled cheese, Miracle Whip, modular synthesizers, and whether or not they were ever bullied.

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Aaron talks about the 1986 film True Stories, written and directed by David Byrne of Talking Heads fame, while also diving into the significant impact David Byrne played in his adolescence when Aaron first saw David described as a Renaissance Man.

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While stretching the confines of what counts as arts and culture, Max goes into depth about Neopets, The Darkest Faerie and the magic that was/is the Play Station 2.

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Aaron recounts his history with the book Young Adult Novel by Daniel Pinkwater and the journey it sparked into dadaism, individuality, HOA hate and Grape Nuts love.

In the inaugural episode of Like Pigs in Space, Max talks to his dad, Aaron, about his favorite album for a long, long, long, long time.