What does it mean to grow up in a world that doesn’t fully reflect your identity?.In this episode, covering memoir, race, religion, the stories we’re told, and the ones we learn to write ourselves, Estelle Erasmus sits down with writer and memoirist Shannon Luders-Manuel, author of The One Who Loves You: A Memoir of Growing Up Biracial in a Black and White World. Shannon shares the deeply personal journey behind her memoir, which explores her childhood growing up mixed-race in a predominantly white family, her complex relationship with her Black father, and how those dynamics shaped her identity, relationships, and voice as a writer.

In this episode:

• The story behind the book’s title and structure [3:31]

• How Shannon used personal artifacts, like journals and letters, to write memoir [6:08]

• The challenges and emotional truths of writing about family [7:15]

• Writing scenes, trusting memory, and tips for memoirists [15:02]

• How religion, race, and belonging intersected in Shannon’s upbringing [18:37]

• Her experience as a sensitivity reader and why nuance matters [19:46]

Connect with Shannon:

Website: https://www.shannonludersmanuel.com/

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In her widely shared TEDx Talk, Estelle Erasmus reveals how to command attention in a noisy world—starting with a chaotic moment involving Thomas the Tank Engine. It’s bold, funny, and packed with real-world strategies for writers who want to be seen and heard.
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About Estelle:
Estelle Erasmus is an award-winning journalist, author of Writing That Gets Noticed (named a “Best Book for Writers” by Poets & Writers), and host of Freelance Writing Direct—2025 Podcast of the Year (Education), American Writing Awards. A Contributing Editor for Writer’s Digest and adjunct instructor at NYU, she’s written for over 150 outlets including The New York Times, The Washington Post, WIRED, PBS/Next Avenue, The Independent, and AARP: The Magazine, and has served as editor-in-chief of five national magazines.

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