They planned it in prison. Then they built the van. Now the toolbox is open… and the girls are disappearing.

In Part 2 of this chilling true crime series, Lawrence Bittaker and Roy Norris take their deadly prison pact on the road. Their custom-built torture van—dubbed “Murder Mac”—becomes a rolling chamber of horrors as the pair begins hunting young women across Southern California in 1979.

What follows is one of the most sadistic and disturbing killing sprees in American history. Hitchhikers are lured in, driven to remote mountain roads, and subjected to unimaginable torture using pliers, vise grips, sledgehammers, and ice picks. One victim’s final screams were captured on audio tape—a recording so horrific it still shocks even veteran detectives today.

In this episode:

• The first abduction: Lucinda “Cindy” Schaefer
• The brutal murders of Andrea Hall, Jackie Gilliam & Jacqueline Lamp
• The terrifying Halloween night attack on Shirley Ledford
• How their own recordings would eventually help bring them down

If Part 1 left you stunned by their plan, Part 2 will leave you horrified by its execution.

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️Content Warning: This episode contains detailed discussion of abduction, violence against women, and murder. Listener discretion is strongly advised.

They called themselves "the Toolbox Killers." But before they had a name, before the tape recorder, before the tools — there were two men who found each other inside a California prison and made a pact that would shock even the most hardened FBI profilers for decades to come.

In Part 1 of this two-part series, we go deep into one of the most disturbing true crime cases in American history—the murders carried out by Lawrence Sigmund Bittaker and Roy Lewis Norris in the summer of 1979 along the Southern California coast.

We start at the beginning. Who were these men? We trace the chilling biography of Lawrence Bittaker — a man with a tested IQ of 138 who spent his life exploiting every system he touched, racking up convictions from car theft to assault, slipping through the cracks of a justice system that failed again and again to see the predator underneath. Then we meet Roy Norris—convicted rapist, follower, and the man who would become Bittaker's willing instrument.

We walk you through their meeting inside the California Men's Colony in San Luis Obispo, where the two men didn't just become friends—they planned. They discussed, in explicit and meticulous detail, a shared fantasy: to abduct, torture, and kill one teenage girl for every year of a teen's age—one 13-year-old, one 14-year-old, all the way through 19. They called it a "project." They bought a silver GMC cargo van they nicknamed "Murder Mac." They installed a mattress. They mounted hooks in the ceiling.

They were ready.

We cover the first two confirmed murders—16-year-old Cindy Schaefer, abducted while walking to her grandmother's house in Redondo Beach, and 18-year-old Andrea Joy Hall, a hitchhiker who accepted a ride she could never have known would be her last. We discuss what happened to them with the gravity and respect these young women deserve, and what the evidence later revealed about their final hours.

And then—they kept driving. The van kept rolling up and down the Pacific Coast Highway. And Lawrence Bittaker was already watching the sidewalks.

This is not a story for the faint of heart. It is a story about institutional failure, about predatory partnerships, about the terrifying reality that evil can organize and plan and wait. It is a story we owe it to Cindy, Andrea, and the other victims to tell — with honesty, with detail, and without looking away.

Part 2 coming next week.

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In December 2009, a Louisville hairdresser and beloved drag queen named Jamie Carroll walked into a Victorian mansion in Old Louisville — and never walked out. For seven months, he lay buried beneath the basement floor while the two men who killed him went on with their lives above his grave. Nobody reported him missing. Nobody came looking. Until a 911 call, a domestic dispute, and four words spoken in the back of a squad car changed everything.

In Part 1 of Buried Beneath Fourth Street, Kris and Rob introduce you to Jamie Carroll — hairstylist by day, drag queen Ronica Reed by night — and to the two men at the center of one of Kentucky's most twisted true crime cases: Jeffrey "Jase" Mundt, the polished IT professional hiding a dangerous double life, and Joey Banis, the persistent felon fresh out of prison who was tangled up with Jamie long before he ever moved into that mansion on South 4th Street.

We lay out the love triangle, the fatal December night, the horrifying cover-up, and the thread that finally unraveled everything — from a counterfeit $100 bill at a Chicago hotel to the words that sent detectives straight to that basement floor.

In this episode:

• Who was Jamie Carroll? Hairstylist. Drag queen Ronica Reed. A man everyone loved.
• Who were Jeffrey Mundt and Joey Banis? Two very different men bound together by drugs and obsession.
• The love triangle that ignited a deadly night in December 2009
• The cover-up inside the mansion at 1435 South 4th Street
• The Chicago counterfeiting arrest that started the unraveling
• The 911 call, the squad car, and the words that cracked the case wide open

Hitched 2 Homicide is hosted by thriller author Kris Calvert and Emmy-nominated composer Rob Pottorf. Real cases. Real crimes. Til death do us part.

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She was 26 years old, self-employed, literate, and by every account exceptional. Bridget Cleary was a dressmaker in rural County Tipperary who made her own money, kept her own chickens, and lived life largely on her own terms — which, in 1895 Ireland, made her unusual. It may also have made her a target.

When Bridget fell ill in late February 1895, her husband Michael didn't call a doctor. He called Jack Dunne — a local man known throughout the community as an expert in fairy belief and folk cures. Dunne's diagnosis was swift and devastating: the woman in the bed was not the real Bridget Cleary. The fairies had taken her. What lay in that cottage was a changeling — a fairy impostor wearing his wife's face.

What followed was nine days of escalating ritualistic abuse, witnessed and participated in by Bridget's own father, her cousins, and her neighbors. There were multiple people in that cottage on the night of March 14th, 1895. There were multiple opportunities to stop what was happening. Nobody did.

Michael Cleary dragged his wife to the fireplace. He demanded she repeat her own name three times to prove she was human. She did. He didn't believe her. He held her over the flames, then seized a household oil lamp and poured the burning fuel over her body. Bridget Cleary died that night, burned beyond recognition, while the people who knew and loved her stood in the room and watched.

In this episode of Hitched 2 Homicide, we tell the complete story of the burning of Bridget Cleary — from the remarkable life she lived, to the fairy belief system that made her murder possible, to the cover-up, the shallow grave near a fairy fort, and the trial at Clonmel Assizes in July 1895 that sent nine people to the dock including her husband, her father, her cousins, her neighbors, and the so-called fairy expert Jack Dunne himself.

This is Irish true crime at its most haunting. It is a story about superstition and obsession, about community silence and female independence, about a woman who was too much herself in a world that couldn't handle it. And it is, ultimately, a story about what happens when the people who are supposed to protect you decide you are something other than human.

Bridget Cleary was not a fairy. She was not a changeling. She was a woman. And she deserved so much better than the world she lived in.

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• 00:00 Introduction
• 05:14 Who Was Bridget Cleary?
• 12:06 Fairy Belief in Victorian Ireland and Types of Fairies
• 24:26 The Illness and Jack Dunne's Diagnosis
• 28:53 Nine Days of Ritualistic Abuse
• 41:09 The Night of March 14th, 1895
• 47:03 The Cover-Up and the Shallow Grave
• 51:00 The Arrests — Nine People in the Dock
• 54:50 The Trial at Clonmel Assizes
• 59:52 The Verdicts and Sentences
• 1:03:38 Bless Your Heart

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In March 2022, Eric Richins was found dead in his Kamas, Utah bedroom. He was 39. He had four children. And he had enough fentanyl in his system to kill four people. His wife, Kouri Richins, told investigators she found him unresponsive. But prosecutors told a different story — one involving forged documents, fraudulent mortgages, multiple life insurance policies, and what they alleged was a prior poisoning attempt months earlier. Then came the detail that stopped the country: while awaiting trial for her husband's murder, Kouri Richins published a children's book about coping with loss. It was called "Are You With Me?" This podcast covers the full arc of the Richins case — from the marriage that unraveled into financial ruin, to the trial that transfixed Utah in 2024.

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He seemed like any other married man in 1960s Oregon — a job, a wife, a house in the suburbs. But behind closed doors, Jerry Brudos was keeping secrets that would make him one of the most disturbing serial killers in American history.

In this episode of Hitched 2 Homicide, we dig into the case of Jerome Henry Brudos — the "Lust Killer" — a man whose obsession with women's shoes and clothing began in childhood and escalated into kidnapping, murder, and the unthinkable. What does it take for a husband and father to lead a double life this dark? And how did investigators finally catch up with him?

We're covering it all: his deeply troubled childhood, his volatile marriage, the murders of at least four young women in the Salem, Oregon area, and the investigation that brought him down. Trigger warning: this episode contains graphic descriptions of violence, sexual sadism, and disturbing criminal behavior.

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