I’ve known my guest Wes Robinson for more than a decade, beginning when we started at our new jobs together at PennLive/The Patriot News.

When it comes to friends, I tend to seek out fun, critical thinkers. Someone that can challenge me and make me laugh. Someone who will get right to the line and roundly cross it. Someone who has a strong moral character and a diabolical sense of humor.

After I left journalism, I worked to bring Wes with me to the Pennsylvania Senate. He joined me at the Capitol for several years. We’d see each other at press conferences, events and at our semi-regular “journalism survivors guild” lunch.

Then in 2021, Wes took an amazing opportunity to become the press secretary for the Pennsylvania Department of Conservation and Natural Resources.

During that same time, I decided to run a mile in all then 121 Pennsylvania State Parks. So, as I was discovering the outdoors, Wes was doing much of the same thing professionally.

Wes was one of only three people to joined me on my 121 In 21 Challenge. On a sweltering day in July, Wes ran one mile at seven state parks with me. It was yet another example of him being a great supporter and going the extra mile – so to speak – for a friend.

As I was developing this podcast in 2022, I knew its success depended on whether I could get guests. From the very beginning, Wes worked hard to make sure I was able to find guests that would highlight our amazing outdoor spaces.

Wes is the sort of person that loves seeing his friends succeed. And he’ll do as much as he can to introduce you to the right people, send the email to the right organization or bring you along to a networking event. Not to curry favors. Not to make himself look good. But to make you look good.

This podcast would not exist without Wes. His generosity, hard work and legitimacy in the outdoor space is the only reason I can make Hemlocks to Hellbenders.

So, what is this episode about? How awesome Wes is? A little. What work is going on at DCNR? Absolutely.

But it’s also about two friends whose journey of falling in love with the outdoors is connected. It’s about what can be done with the right people at the right time. And it’s about what we can all do to support each other and our wonderful public lands.

On this episode, I speak with Wes Robinson. Wes is the press secretary for the Pennsylvania Department of Conservation and Natural Resources and my very good friend.

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Point State Park stands as the crowned jewel of downtown Pittsburgh. It is a lush, 36-acre greenspace nestled at the historic confluence of the Allegheny and Monongahela Rivers, where the mighty Ohio River is born.

Point State Park is a focal point for community gatherings, festivals and celebrations. It provides sweeping views of the city’s skyline and serves as a tranquil urban escape.

The Point has become the place you bring your out of town parents to. The place you see on TV during all home games for the Pirates and Steelers. The place you see from atop of the iconic Duquesne Incline.

But it hasn’t always been that way.

Before it was Point State Park, it was known as the Forks of the Ohio River and served as a critical military strong hold for the French, British, Native American and American militaries. Fort Prince George, Fort Duquesene and Fort Pitt were all – at one time or another – located where the state park stands.

Overtime the Point developed into a thriving industrial zone, a place dedicated to supplying resources for the growing United States of America.

But by the 1930s, the area had deteriorated into a commercial slum. City and state officials stepped up and completely changed the property.

More than just a park, the Point is a testament to Pittsburgh’s ability to reinvent itself while honoring its roots and is a powerful symbol of Pittsburgh’s resilience, history and natural beauty.

As the gateway to the city and the heart of its downtown, Point State Park doesn’t just represent Pittsburgh—it is Pittsburgh.

On this episode, I speak with Jack Lachendro. Jack is the Environmental Education Specialist at Point State Park.

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Many of us find our love for the outdoors the same way – with a hike. A short jaunt into the woods that brings us in touch with nature. But soon, short hikes just won’t do. There’re too many people. Too many screaming kids. Too much car traffic.

So, the only logical next step is to take longer hikes. 2 miles turns into 5 miles, turns into 10 miles. The peaceful solitude of the woods, the rewarding views from a summit and the sense of accomplishment after completing a trail all contribute to a growing desire to spend even more time immersed in nature.

As that passion grows, the idea of longer backpacking trips becomes more appealing. The ability to stay in the wilderness overnight offers a deeper connection to the outdoors.

Gone are the easy hikes. Now you’re planning multi-day journeys that require you to learn additional skills. You learn how to read maps. You develop a sleeping system. You figure out how to poop outside.

Soon, you’re watching ultralight gear videos on YouTube and drooling over maps of the Appalachian Trail. All of your clothes are hiking clothes and full transformation to granola gang is complete.

For some, the progression from day hiker to backpacker is a natural one. But for many, myself included, it can be intimidating. Going from hiking around a lake to hiking for several days is a difficult hurdle – mentally and physically.

But where do I start? What gear do I need? What hikes should I try? How can I go from a day hiker to a backpacker safely?

Well since I’m still a backpacking noob, I decided to talk to the person that was once in my hiking shoes.

On this episode, I speak with Tory Mather. Tory is the voice behind the My Trails Are Many blog and @ToryTalksTrails accounts on social media.

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The best part about having 124 state parks to explore in Pennsylvania is the variety. Each park is special in its own way. Each park offers a natural feature, a trail, a view, a piece of local history, or something that makes it stand out from others.

You’ve got the old growth forests at Cook Forest State Park. The waterfalls at Ricketts Glen State Park. The fly fishing at Poe Paddy State Park. Every single park offers a bit of variety. A bit of magic. A bit of splendor. A bit of something special that makes every visit to a state park worthwhile.

So, what makes Susquehannock State Park special? What is the bit of magic they do better than any of the other state parks?

For me, it’s the breathtaking panoramic views of the Lower Susquehanna River. The Susquehannock State Park Complex is made up of three separate properties, each offering incredible views of the river.

From the overlooks, you can take in the river as it winds through steep, forested hills and dramatic cliffs. These overlooks provide stunning vantage points where you can gaze out over the wide expanse of water, dotted with rocky islands and framed by lush greenery.

On a clear day, you might catch a glimpse of bald eagles and hawks soaring overhead or boats gliding along the river below. The mix of dense woodlands, open meadows, and the ever-changing colors of the river make this park the perfect place to enjoy the magnificence of the Commonwealth.

Don’t get me wrong, I love every state park. But Susquehannock State Park has that little something extra. That little shimmer of gold. That little magic that makes the park special in its own wonderful way. And I’m thrilled to share that with you, right now.

On this episode, I speak with Kelly Ford. Kelly is the Environmental Education Specialist at Susquehannock State Park Complex.

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In the heart of Central Pennsylvania lies a true outdoor recreation paradise. If you're looking for adventure, Huntingdon County delivers—hiking, biking, paddling, and breathtaking views at every turn.

Whether you’re trekking through Rothrock State Forest, paddling on Raystown Lake or taking in the stunning views from the Standing Stone Trail, there’s no shortage of ways to explore the wild beauty of this region.

Huntingdon County is home to a vast network of trails that cater to every kind of adventurer. Looking for a challenging hike with wonderful overlooks? You’ll want to check out the Thousand Steps, a historic and leg-burning climb that rewards hikers with unforgettable views. Prefer a scenic and relaxing ride?

The Allegrippis Trails at Raystown Lake are considered some of the best mountain biking trails on the East Coast. And if you’re someone who enjoys time on the water, the Juniata River offers miles of beautiful shoreline, perfect for kayaking, fishing, or just soaking in nature.

On this episode, sponsored by the Huntingdon County Visitors Bureau, we’ll talk with trail experts and outdoor enthusiasts who know this landscape inside and out.

They’ll share the best spots to explore, the history behind some of these iconic trails, and why Huntingdon County has become a must-visit destination for hikers, bikers, paddlers, and nature lovers alike.

In fact, they’re hosting the Keystone Trail Association’s Spring Hiking Weekend from April 25 to 27 at Lake Raystown Resort. The weekend will showcase local hikes, environmental stewardship activities, bike rides, guest speakers, dog-friendly activities and more.

So whether you’re looking for a new trail to conquer, a weekend getaway packed with adventure, or just some inspiration to get outside, stick around—because we’re about to dive deep into all the outdoor recreation Huntingdon County has to offer.

On this episode, I speak with Matt Price and George Conrad. Matt is the executive director of the Huntingdon County Visitors Bureau. George is the president of the Standing Stone Trail Club.

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Tucked away just outside of Hollidaysburg, Canoe Creek State Park is underrated treasure. It’s got a little bit of everything to keep visitors busy, interested and engaged.

It’s location also makes it the perfect homebase for weekends visiting Altoona, Holidaysburg and so much more.

I’m looking forward to getting back to Canoe Creek State Park with friends to explore even more of the Ridge and Valley Province of southern Pennsylvania.

On this episode, I speak with Heidi Mullendore. Heidi is the environmental education specialist at Canoe Creek State Park.

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For generations, Pennsylvanians have been at the forefront of conservation movements that have shaped the United States. Pennsylvanians like Gifford Pinchot, Joseph Rothrock, J Horace McFarland and Rachel Carson have had immeasurable impacts on our natural world.

They’ve helped protect our forests, create state parks, beautify our cities and warn against the devastating affects of pesticides. Others like Ralph Brock and Mira Lloyd Dock have often been left out of the history books, due to discrimination. But finally, they voices and work are being raised up.

From the indigenous tribes that inhabited the lands we now call Pennsylvania, to the activists that helped pass the environmental rights amendment to our constitution, Pennsylvania has a long and storied history of conservation.

I find that the more time I spend outside enjoying our incredible public lands, the more I want to learn more about our history of conservation. But where’s a good place to start? Where can I learn a lot without getting bogged down in timelines and jargon.

For me, there’s been no better guidebook, than Allen Dieterich-Ward’s "Cradle of Conservation: An Environmental History of Pennsylvania."

Released in 2024, this book is a comprehensive study of Pennsylvania’s environmental history in less than 150 pages. This concise book unpacks the people, policies and pivotal moments that turned Pennsylvania into a leader in conservation. Whether you're a history buff, a nature lover, or just someone who enjoys a good story about the great outdoors, this book is for you.

On this episode, I speak with Allen Dieterich-Ward to the podcast. Allen is a professor of history and director of The Graduate School at Shippensburg University and the author of Cradle of Conservation.

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When taking a hike, people don’t often think about everything it takes to keep trails operational. The bridge building, the trail restoration, the habitat enhancement, the invasive species management and so on. The work often goes unseen.

And if you don’t spend much time thinking about the work that takes place, even less time is spent thinking about the people that do the work. The image of burly guys in flannel with hardhats and chainsaws come to mind. Rough and tough individuals who would have been lumberjacks or coal miners in previous generations. Now, wearing safety orange they tend to the land for the benefit of all Pennsylvanians.

Yeah. That’s just not the case. While many of those guys and gals are still out there performing the work, often time projects are being done by kids. Well not kids, kids but young adults ages 15 to 25.

Members of the Pennsylvania Outdoor Corps take on projects across dozens of state parks and forests every year through programs lasting 6 weeks to nine months. Mentored by older individuals, these crews complete tens of thousands of hours of work on improvement projects while also receiving training and education and developing team building and career opportunities.

The Pennsylvania Outdoor Corps was created by DCNR Sec. Cindy Adams Dunn to connect youth and young adults with job opportunities relating to the outdoors and the environment.

On this episode, we’re going to be exploring the work they do, their service to the Commonwealth and the careers that come from working in the Pennsylvania Outdoor Corps.

On this episode, I speak with Michael Piaskowski. Mike is the manger of the Pennsylvania Outdoor Corps.

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