Hello Everybody!

Today I'm trying something new, this is a podcast swap! The idea is two podcast hosts will interview each other, and then cross publish their interviews on their respective podcasts. How fun!

This interview is with Electra, from Under The Umbra, which is a podcast centered on exploring interpersonal interactions. In each episode, Electra and co-hosts explore ways to think about and plan for difficult relationships with people and systems in a way that stays grounded in values and centers community. Below are show notes and corrections Electra DID leave me, because they value accuracy and evidence.

Show notes: Electra can be heard at https://undertheumbra.info/ , or wherever you get your podcasts.

Things referred to: Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents: How to Heal from Distant, Rejecting, or Self-Involved Parents, by Lindsay C. Gibson, PsyD

The High Conflict Institute

https://highconflictinstitute.com/podcasts/

And a representative article with the four linked characteristics/traits.

1. Preoccupation with blaming others.

2. All-or-nothing thinking.

3. Unmanaged emotions that throw them off-course.

4. Extreme behaviors (that 90% of people would never do)

https://highconflictinstitute.com/high-conflict-strategies/anybody-you-know-40-predictable-characteristics-of-high-conflict-people/

Electra's first listened-to podcasts which became audio literary magazines are still running today.

EscapePod https://escapepod.org/PodCastlehttps://podcastle.org/ and PseudoPodhttps://pseudopod.org/

Guild of the Cowry Catchers, reorganized into a series called the Pirates of Wefrivain in 2021, by Abigail Hilton https://www.abigailhilton.com/the-books Or https://shop.abigailhilton.com/collection/pirates-of-wefrivain

Corrections: Electra's first ever recorded podcast was on EscapePod not PodCastle

https://escapepod.org/2009/12/31/ep232-flash-special/The auditory quality is not up to their current standards.

cPTSD stands for complex Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, not chronic

Captain Tom Molnar is a US Merchant Marine captain, whom I sailed with for several months around Australia, on the MV Bob Hope.

Charlie is a marine engineer and personal friend! We met aboard the Pride of America and in this episode he tells some sea stories, including the time Hawaii had a nuclear missile scare, and talks union membership. Hope you enjoy!