Hall of Famer Ozzie “The Wizard” Smith joins Jeff to talk about discovering golf after baseball, what “freedom” and “flow” really mean, and how the lessons from a life in baseball still drive him on the course.

Ozzie Smith is a Hall of Fame shortstop, St. Louis icon, and—since 1996—a full-blown golf nut. In this episode, Ozzie shares how he fell for the game after retirement, why his very first ceremonial tee shot at Whitey Herzog’s event went “right down the middle,” and what golf gives him that baseball no longer could: an honest challenge and a place to compete.

We dig into the athlete-to-golfer crossover: rhythm, timing, and the true meaning of “release” for a baseball player learning to keep the ball in play (“aim it at the second baseman”). Ozzie explains why nothing replaces repetitions—“it’s not until you’ve hit three, four thousand balls that it starts to make sense”—and how playing “totally free” fueled both his defensive wizardry and his love of golf. He also talks creativity on double plays, learning to fall and move like an acrobat as a kid, and why improvisation kept him healthy for 19 seasons.

Beyond the swing, Ozzie opens up about purpose and community. As president of Gateway PGA REACH, he’s helping kids and veterans access the game—and the business of golf—with a vision to build a nine-hole, multi-recreation facility in St. Louis. If you want a masterclass in staying competitive, staying humble, and keeping the joy, this one hits home.

• Ozzie’s charity & event info: ozzysmithgolf.com
• Gateway PGA REACH: pgareachgateway.org
• Jeff & JB intro topics: 100-Hole Hike for Youth on Course, Jeff’s 36×13 Challenge for Folds of Honor, JB’s speed training with The Stack System

• 1st Phorm — premium nutrition for golfers who play strong and live stronger.
• 18STRONG.com — programs & community to help you Play More Golf. Live More Life.

Roger Null is a revered golf course superintendent ("Greenskeeper" as Roger still likes to call it) and architect, recognized as a legend in the St. Louis area. With decades of experience, Roger shares invaluable insights into the intricacies of maintaining and designing golf courses, shedding light on the challenges faced by superintendents today. His deep understanding of both the agronomy and architectural aspects of the game provides a unique perspective that resonates with golf enthusiasts and industry professionals alike.

During our conversation, we dive into Roger’s rich history in the golf world, exploring his journey from a small-town Iowa kid to becoming a respected figure in golf course management. We discuss the evolution of course design, the impact of technology on maintenance practices, and the importance of preserving the integrity of classic courses. Roger also reflects on the significance of passion and tenacity in his work, emphasizing that love for the game is at the heart of everything he does.

Join us as we explore the stories and experiences that have shaped Roger's career in golf, from managing the greens to understanding the art of course architecture. Whether you’re a golfer, a budding superintendent, or just curious about the behind-the-scenes of golf course management, this episode is packed with insights that will resonate with you.

Takeaways:

• Roger Null shares his incredible journey from a young golfer to a revered golf course superintendent.
• He emphasizes the importance of passion and tenacity in the demanding world of golf maintenance.
• Through his experiences, Roger discusses the evolution of golf course architecture and agronomy over the decades.
• The conversation highlights the balance between maintaining traditional course features and meeting modern player demands.
• Roger reflects on the challenges faced in the transitional climate of St. Louis and how it affects turf management.
• He shares insights on the unique history of Palmetto Golf Club and its significance in the world of golf.

Matt Ginella is a longtime golf journalist, storyteller, and founder of Fire Pit Collective, a media company dedicated to celebrating the game, its people, and its culture. From his days at Golf Digest and Golf Channel to building one of the most authentic voices in modern golf media, Matt has been at the center of how we see and experience the game today.

The latest episode of Golf Don't Lie dives deep into the life and career of Matt Ginella, a name synonymous with golf storytelling and travel. We kick things off by reflecting on Matt's journey from his days at the Golf Channel, where he was known as the 'golf trip guy', to the founding of Fire Pit Productions—a venture that has undergone significant transformation and growth. Matt shares insights into the challenges faced during the early days of his company, particularly during the pandemic, and how he adapted to turn those challenges into opportunities. His recent acquisition by Kemper Sports marks a pivotal moment, positioning Fire Pit Productions to create compelling narratives around some of the most iconic golf courses in the country, including the likes of Gamble Sands and Stream Song. The conversation flows seamlessly as we explore the importance of storytelling in golf, the impact of community-driven golf courses, and the unique experiences that make each destination special. We also touch on Matt's personal life, highlighting the balance he strives to maintain between his passion for golf and his family commitments, especially as a father to a young son who is just beginning to discover the game. This episode is packed with rich narratives, engaging anecdotes, and valuable lessons about resilience, creativity, and the ever-evolving relationship between golf and personal growth.

Takeaways:

• The evolution of Matt Ginella's career from Golf Channel to Fire Pit Productions illustrates the importance of adaptability in the fast-paced world of media and storytelling.
• The podcast emphasizes the community aspect of golf, highlighting how places like Goat Hill Park thrive on inclusivity and the joy of playing together.
• Matt shared insights on how golf inherently teaches humility, showing that even the best players can face challenges and reminding us to remain grounded in our self-perception.
• Youth on Course is a powerful program that makes golf accessible to underprivileged kids, showcasing the impact of affordability and community support in expanding the sport's reach.

Sam Goulden is the founder of MNML Golf, a brand revolutionizing the golf bag industry with a focus on sustainability and community-building. In our conversation, we dive deep into his journey from teaching golf to launching a brand that emphasizes quality and environmental consciousness. Sam shares how his passion for the game and a desire to challenge the norm in golf equipment led to the creation of bags that not only look good but also last longer and reduce waste.

Throughout the episode, we explore key themes like the importance of craftsmanship in golf gear, the shift towards inclusivity in the sport, and how golf can foster a sense of community among players. Sam discusses his unique approach to bag design, including innovative features like magnetic closures and a focus on durable materials, which set Minimal apart in a crowded market. His insights into the evolving culture of golf highlight the blend of tradition and modernity that appeals to a new generation of golfers.

Join us as we unpack what it means to grow the game authentically and how Sam's commitment to quality and sustainability aligns with the greater goal of making golf accessible and enjoyable for everyone.

Sam Goulden: Building Community Through Golf and Innovation

Takeaways:

• Staying hydrated is key during long rounds to maintain energy and focus.
• The importance of a solid pre-shot routine to enhance performance and achieve flow state.
• Competitive golf requires mental preparedness and the right fuel to perform well under pressure.
• Maintaining golf bags sustainably can reduce environmental impact and promote responsible consumerism.
• Customization and personal touches on golf gear can create meaningful connections within the golfing community.
• Building a supportive golf community helps grow the game and enriches the experience for players of all levels.

Today’s episode dives into the intricate mental game of golf, featuring Dr. Gaston Cordova, who breaks down the connection between our physical performance on the course and our mental state. The core takeaway here is that mastering your game isn’t just about swing mechanics; it’s also about mastering your mind and body, especially when faced with adversity on the course. We chat about how self-talk and visualization play critical roles in maintaining composure after a bad shot or a tough hole, emphasizing that slowing down our body is essential to calming our racing minds. Plus, we explore techniques like breath control and the power of a positive mindset, illustrating that these practices can transform your performance and overall experience in the game. Whether you’re a weekend warrior or a seasoned pro, the insights shared in this episode will resonate with anyone looking to elevate their golf game and life.

Takeaways:

• Golf is a journey of constant learning and adaptation, reflecting the unpredictable nature of life.
• The mental aspects of golf, including visualization and mindfulness, can significantly enhance performance on the course.
• Preparation is key; both mental and physical readiness paves the way for success in golf and beyond.
• To overcome challenges on the course, it's crucial to calm the body first to settle the mind for better clarity.
• Self-mastery in golf involves recognizing and managing self-talk, especially when under pressure during rounds.
• Embracing a heart-centered approach in golf can lead to improved performance and a more fulfilling experience.

We welcome Peter Egazarian from the illustrious Farmington Country Club, diving deep into the intricate connections between golf, personal development, and the human experience. The episode kicks off with Peter sharing his unique journey from a traditional golf instructor to a performance coach who integrates cutting-edge technology and sports science into his practice. Together, we explore how golf serves as a mirror, revealing our true selves and offering invaluable lessons on resilience and character, cementing the idea that “GOLF DON'T LIE.” Peter also highlights the rich history of Farmington, where the legacy of Thomas Jefferson intertwines with modern golfing experiences, creating a vibrant community atmosphere. Tune in as we unpack the transformative power of golf, emphasizing relationships built on the course and the personal growth that comes from every swing taken.

Everything in golf leads back to the individual, and this vibe runs throughout the conversation with Peter Egazarian. Jeff and Justin kick things off by discussing their own experiences with golf, emphasizing how the sport brings people together and fosters lifelong friendships. The episode highlights how golf serves as a great equalizer, exposing personal strengths and weaknesses through the lens of the game. Peter's insights into his role at Farmington Country Club showcase the blend of tradition and innovation that defines modern golf. He details his background in sports performance and how it shapes his approach to coaching, illustrating how technology can enhance the golf experience while maintaining the sport's integrity. The discussion also touches on the significance of mentorship and community in the golfing world, with Peter underscoring the importance of creating a welcoming environment for all players. This episode is a rich exploration of golf's role in shaping character and building relationships, making it a must-listen for anyone passionate about the game.

Takeaways:

• Golf is a reflection of personal character, revealing who you really are under pressure.
• The importance of relationships in golf cannot be overstated; they shape both our game and life experiences.
• Using technology in golf training, such as the NX Pro unit, greatly enhances performance and recovery.
• A relaxed mindset is crucial for success in golf, as stress can hinder performance on the course.
• The history of Farmington Country Club intertwines with Thomas Jefferson, making it a unique and historical golfing venue.
• Building a community through golf, like Mandatory Golf Friday, fosters connections and friendships among players.

Companies mentioned in this episode:

• Farmington Country Club
• Trackman
• NeuX Tech
• Old Warson Country Club
• Arcadia Bluffs
• Korn Ferry Tour
• NPI
• 1stPhorm

Companies mentioned in this episode:

• firstform
• Farmington Country Club
• New X
• Trackman

Welcome to GOLF DON'T LIE™️, where we're diving deep into the heart of golf and life in a new chapter of the 18STRONG Podcast. We're all about shifting the focus from just swing tips to the stories that shape us on and off the course.

Jeff Pelizzaro takes us on a journey, highlighting how golf isn’t just a game; it’s a mirror reflecting who we truly are. Expect real talk with athletes, creatives, and everyday legends who share their experiences and lessons learned, making our time on the greens way more meaningful. We’re mixing it up with segments that bring hilarious and humbling moments to light, proving that every swing has a story, and every story is worth sharing. So, tune in, kick back, and let’s explore how golf can teach us about living life to the fullest.

Takeaways:

• The rebranding from 18STRONG to GOLF DON'T LIE™️ signifies a deeper focus on personal stories and shared experiences within the golf community.
• Our podcast will explore not just the technicalities of golf, but also the life lessons that come from playing the game and connecting with others.
• Expect a mix of in-depth conversations with various guests, ranging from professional athletes to everyday golfers sharing their unique journeys.
• New segments like 'GOLF DON'T LIE™️ moments' will highlight the unexpected and humorous experiences that only golf can provide, enriching our discussions.
• This show aims to resonate with golfers of all skill levels, emphasizing authentic storytelling over mere technique and swing tips, fostering a relatable community.
• Join us as we dive into heartfelt discussions that reflect the true essence of golf, celebrating both the challenges and triumphs experienced on the course.

Companies mentioned in this episode:

• 18STRONG
• The Good Bogey

Guest: Bo Watson & Shannon Shuskey (In the Zone Mental Training, Authors In the Zone Secrets)

Host: Jeff Pelizzaro

Episode Number: 371

Podcast: The 18STRONG Podcast

Partners: Linksoul, 1stPhorm

Join us as we explore the intricate dance between the mind and the golf swing with mental training experts Bo Watson and Shannon Shuskey of In the Zone Mental Training. Together, we unravel the significant impact of mental coaching in conjunction with golf instruction. Hear about Bo’s personal struggles with golf and the pivotal role Shannon’s expertise played in not just refining his game, but transforming the way he—and any golfer—can harness the power of visualization. From the tee box to the final putt, this conversation is a treasure trove for those looking to elevate their mental game and savor the joy of golf like never before.

Listen in as we discuss the transformative power of mindset in sports performance. Shannon opens up about his journey from anxiety-ridden to confident, culminating in becoming a national champion speed skater, and how that mental shift can be equally effective on the golf course. Skepticism meets evidence when Bo applies a custom mental trigger, leading to astonishing improvements in his game after a two-year break. This dialogue will leave you pondering the potential for mental techniques to revolutionize sports and how a single change in perception can be a game-changer.

We round out our conversation with an insightful look into mental imagery’s role in sports performance and technique, the concept of ‘caveman golf’ for achieving flow, and the psychological intricacies unique to golf. Discover how legends like Tiger Woods and Sam Snead leverage mental imagery to perform under pressure and how these techniques can empower you to reset mentally on the course. As Bo and Shannon share their book insights and their passion for the game, this episode is not just a lesson in golf—it’s an invitation to transform how you approach every shot, mentally and emotionally.

Bo is the Co-Founder of In The Zone Mental Training and Co-Author of the new book called In The Zone Secrets. He has been a host of 2 Consistent Golf Summits and the Road2TheTour Golf Summit, which collectively drew over 20,000 registered attendees. These Summits featured some of the world’s best coaches such as Sean Foley, James Sieckmann, David Orr, Mark Broadie, Scott Fawcett, Nick Clearwater, Dr. Kwon, Andrew Rice, and many others. The primary purpose behind these summits was to help golfers shortcut their path to consistent golf!

Shannon was the Operations Manager of the largest Golds Gym on East Coast and Mental Performance Mastery Coach for 20 years, Sports Performance Specialist for 30 years, specifically working in the sport of speed skating, coaching hundreds of high level athletes in including several Olympic qualifiers and medalists. It was Shannon’s mental training techniques that helped his athletes achieve such high levels that intrigued Bo to try them on himself for golf. The success of this “experiment” led to the partnership that is now the helping golfers all over the world shoot their lowest scores ever.

Bo and Shannon’s mission is to help 100,000 golfers shoot their new lifetime low rounds. They currently work with Tour Players, College Golfers, and the everyday golfer who wants to play their best golf yet!

(00:03) The Mental Edge

Mental coaching and...