Angela Simmons sits down with her brother Joseph "JoJo" Simmons for Part 2 of their conversation on the For Good Podcast, and this time they're getting into the real—relationships, dating, and navigating life in the public eye. Angela addresses why she's attracted to "protectors," explaining that she sees people past their reputation and judges them by their character, not street gossip.

She opens up about the pressure of dating publicly since she was 17, from Bow Wow's music video to now, and why her love life became a "thing" that overshadows her other work. Angela gets honest about her recent situation with Yo Gotti and why she didn't immediately tell JoJo when things ended, plus how she handles being constantly dragged into drama she wants no parts of.

The siblings also dive into:

• Why Angela dates "protectors" and how she sees past people's reputations to their hearts

• The viral picture collage that had the internet making assumptions about her dating history

• Her breakup with Yo Gotti and why she went quiet during that time

• That viral Nicki Minaj challenge in stilettos and why she brought heels to the gym

• Angela's Angels and her Christmas toy drive - the philanthropic work people don't talk about

• Her wellness world she's building and why everyone needs a one-stop shop for health

• Mental health routine - 15-20 minutes of phone-free prayer and grounding every morning

JoJo gives Angela her flowers, telling her she's "the definition of a strong Black single woman" and that if people really knew her, they'd watch their tongues. He acknowledges how she's figuring it out daily in an industry that's not easy to survive, always doing it with dignity and pride.

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When Jay-Z rapped "in the kitchen like a Simmons whipping Pastry" about their family business in "Empire State of Mind" Angela Simmons knew she made it. She sits down with her brother Joseph "JoJo" Simmons on the For Good podcast to reveal what really happened behind the scenes of Run's House, how she and Vanessa Simmons built the Pastry empire that got Jay-Z's attention, and why Rev Run saying "no" became her biggest motivation.

In this unfiltered sibling conversation, Angela opens up about her breakup with Yo Gotti and why she's drawn to certain kinds of men. JoJo hints that she has a type, leading to honest talk about dating patterns and relationships. She also gets real about the unique challenges of raising her son as a single mother and the childhood body image insecurities that JoJo admits he contributed to by calling her "fat" during arguments.

Angela also recalls the exact moment she realized she was famous - standing in Times Square after Run's House aired when someone asked for her picture. She and JoJo also break down the pressures of being from a successful family and why having famous parents actually makes it harder, not easier.

Also:

• Pastry outselling Jordan Brand at Foot Locker
• Body transformation from insecurity to fitness obsession
• Plant-based lifestyle and wellness routines for mental health
• Why Simmons kids don't get handouts despite the famous name

Sometimes our biggest mistakes become our greatest teachers. For singer and performer Loomis, a nervous National Anthem performance that went viral became the catalyst for a conversation about resilience, vulnerability, and refusing to let one moment define your entire story.

In this deeply personal episode, Loomis shares her journey from an abusive relationship to finding the courage to pursue her dreams in music. "When I left that really abusive relationship, I said, what I'm gonna do? What I love to do. I love to sing," she tells JoJo, describing how reconnecting with her passion became her path to healing.

The conversation takes an emotional turn as Loomis recounts the morning of her viral performance - how she looked for signs from her recently deceased mother and grandmother, found butterflies circling her, and still felt terrified to perform. When technical difficulties disrupted her performance, leading to the viral moment, Loomis reveals how it actually opened unexpected doors and became part of her larger story of resilience.

Key topics covered:

• Escaping an abusive relationship and reclaiming her voice through music

• Why she refuses to be a "content creator" and prefers authentic connection over social media fame

• Her philosophy on overcoming fear: "All you got to do is two minutes... imagine how you're going to feel doing something you're so scared to do"

Dr. Jay Barnett's story could have ended tragically twice. The former NFL player survived two suicide attempts, left an abusive home at 16, and found healing through an unexpected white family who showed him what unconditional love looked like. Now a mental health therapist, author, and speaker, he's dedicated his life to helping Black men break free from trauma and build healthy relationships.

On this powerful episode of the For Good podcast, Dr. Jay opens up to Joseph "JoJo" Simmons about the moment Woody Marr became the first man to hug him, how that experience taught him boys need emotional connection to become emotionally available men, and why the dating pool is "screwed up" because people think they have to perform to be loved.

Dr. Jay shares a moving story about a 76-year-old man who'd been carrying guilt about his Black teammate for over 70 years. He also explains how to know when you've truly moved beyond your past:

"You know you're free when you can step back into that thing and it doesn't have the same influence."

He and Joseph "JoJo" Simmons also dive into:

• How childhood trauma shapes adult relationships and why boys need more emotional connection
• The difference between accepting what happened and taking it on as your identity
• Why creating safe spaces is about being safe with yourself first
• His upcoming book on pace and nervous system regulation with Penguin Random House

At one point, Freeway Rick Ross was making at least $1 million every day. From tennis player to drug kingpin to prisoner to mentor, his story is one of transformation, education, and second chances. He joins Joseph "JoJo" Simmons on the For Good Podcast to talk about how he went from being a "square" athlete who'd never touched drugs to making millions in the crack era, serving 20+ years in prison, and finding redemption through reading over 300 books behind bars.

Key Topics:

• From Tennis Court to Streets: How Rick went from playing tennis to making millions selling drugs because he "was looking for a way to get out the ghetto"
• Learning to Read at 28: The moment in prison when Rick realized only he could save himself and taught himself to read
• The Three Life-Changing Books: Rick shares the essential reads that gave him "all the principles to do whatever you want to do in the world"
• Coming Home with Nothing: Being essentially homeless with $200 and building a t-shirt empire from a Joe Rogan suggestion
• Mentoring the Next Generation: His current work speaking at schools, supporting reentry programs, and breaking cycles of violence

Rick's story proves that transformation is possible at any moment—that with discipline, education, and intention, anyone can rewrite their story and help others do the same.

Darnell Lamont Walker is an Emmy nominated writer, filmmaker, and death doula whose storytelling spans continents, genres, and generations.

He’s written for children’s shows like Karma’s World, Blues Clues & You, and Rubble & Crew — using imagination and heart to help young people understand life’s biggest lessons. But behind the scenes, Darnell has also answered a deeper calling: guiding others through grief, loss, and healing.

On this episode of the For Good podcast, Joseph "JoJo" Simmons sits down with Darnell for a powerful conversation about what it means to create safe spaces — especially for Black men and children — through storytelling, vulnerability, and community care. From the creative breakthroughs of the Sesame Workshop Writers Room to his deeply personal work as a death doula, Darnell opens up about how loss shaped his mission, and why his upcoming book Never Can Say Goodbye is his most meaningful work yet.

Together, they explore: How kids’ shows can introduce emotional literacy in accessible, joyful ways What it means to be a death doula — and how the role helps people live more fully Why safe spaces and creative courage are essential for Black mental health The importance of community, self-care, and the audacity to keep going This one’s for anyone navigating loss, chasing creative freedom, or building softer worlds for the next generation.

Follow Darnell’s journey at: https://www.darnellwalker.com/ Instagram: [@hello.darnell](https://www.instagram.com/hello.darnell/)

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Dr. Jay Barnett is a former NFL player turned mental health therapist, author, and speaker—on a mission to help Black men and communities heal. After a three-year, 36-city Just Heal Bro tour that reached over 18,000 men, Jay found himself burnt out and battling depression, suicide ideation, and hormonal collapse.

In this episode, he joins host Joseph “JoJo” Simmons to talk about nervous system regulation, the burden of being a giver, and how he rebuilt from the inside out. From morning routines and putting the phone in the kitchen, to redefining what it means to be a provider in a partnership, Jay breaks down what real emotional wellness looks like for Black men.

He shares:

• Why emotional stability—not money—is the true foundation of a successful home
• How he recovered from burnout and vertigo after the tour
• The role of testosterone, holistic healing, and Black men’s health in his journey
• Why rest isn't a luxury, and how to start reclaiming your peace today
• The deeper meaning of “control the pace”—in business, relationships, and life

Eric Kussin had what most people would call a dream life: a high-profile career in pro sports (NBA, Chicago Sky, and Phoenix Suns), a luxury car parked outside his South Beach apartment, and a rising trajectory with the Florida Panthers. But beneath the surface, Eric was silently spiraling. When a mental health crisis hit, it nearly ended everything — and forced him to completely rethink what wellness, success, and self-awareness really look like.

On this episode of the For Good podcast, Joseph "JoJo" Simmons sits down with Eric for a raw conversation about how sports culture, high-pressure environments, and emotional suppression can collide in dangerous ways. Eric opens up about his breakdown, his search for healing beyond traditional treatments, and how it all led to the creation of the Same Here movement, a global campaign rooted in storytelling — and beyond that, the launch of 5in5 Inc. and Regional Psychiatry. Together, they form a growing ecosystem of mental health advocacy, education, and care that goes far beyond a nonprofit model. Eric shares how he’s building real infrastructure for healing across communities, schools, and businesses.

Together, they explore:

• Why gut health, trauma, and stress are major mental health factors
• How sports culture teaches men to hide pain until it explodes
• Why the “1 in 5” mental health stat is harmful and outdated

This one’s for anyone who’s ever looked like they had it all together — while falling apart inside.

Follow Eric’s Mission at: https://samehereglobal.org/ or on Instagram @samehere_global, https://5in5inc.com/, SameHereScale on Google Play

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