In Episode 12, host Virgil Carroll is joined by co-host Cole from High Monkey to dig into a deceptively tricky topic: metadata—what it is, how it works, and why getting it right is more about balance than perfection.

Metadata plays a huge role in findability, search accuracy, and content structure. But when it comes to tagging your content, more isn’t always better—and less definitely isn’t enough. That’s where the concept of the “metadata Goldilocks zone” comes in.

They unpack the most common metadata mistakes and what to do instead, including:

✅ Why under-tagging leaves your site relying on search engine guesswork

✅ How over-tagging renders metadata meaningless

✅ What makes a tag actually useful (and when it’s just noise)

✅ How to approach metadata as an evolving strategy—not a one-time fix

Virgil shares hard-won lessons from consulting across industries, explaining why metadata success depends on both the structure and the context of your content. From internal file systems to public websites, they explore how to build better tagging frameworks without falling into analysis paralysis.

To wrap things up, they offer a practical rule of thumb for anyone managing metadata: optimize for the 80% of user needs first—and let real usage data guide the rest.

For more conversations about digital strategy, search, UX, and all the ways we get it wrong (and how to get it right), visit www.discussingstupid.com and subscribe on your favorite podcast platform.

(0:00) - Intro

(2:27) - What even is metadata?

(4:10) - Metadata is not one-size-fits-all

(7:20) - The dangers of under tagging

(10:00) - The dangers of over tagging

(12:43) - Finding the “Goldilocks” zone with metadata

(15:30) - Virgil’s verdict: Follow the 80/20 rule

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