Some might say Jac is a failure when it comes to cake baking, and whilst Ral is one of Australia’s leading storytellers for business, she’s also been known to not fill a public workshop… is that a failure?

In this episode we define failing as not having a go… to win, learn and evolve you need to make mistakes, because it’s how you bounce back that matters.

So how resilient are you when it comes to your ‘failings’ – there are 3 levels to resilience and if you can master all 3, especially the ‘social level’ then, like Jac & Ral, you will have no trouble at all embracing failing and failing fast!

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