In this episode, Linnea and John are joined by their dear friend, art therapist, educator, and artist Mindy Alexander for a rich conversation about sandtray therapy and the meaning of wholeness. Together, they open up the wonderfully complex and playful world of sandtray, where miniature objects and shifting sand become tools for expression, integration, and healing.

The conversation unfolds around the idea of wholeness—what it means to feel whole, how we can nurture it, and why it matters in our personal and collective lives. Linnea shares their own lifelong relationship with the concept of containment, reflecting on how the idea of “being held” has been present since early childhood. This theme of containment naturally ties into the structure of the sandtray itself, which provides both freedom for expression and boundaries for safety.

Nature also plays an important role in this discussion. The three explore the grounding and restorative qualities of being in relationship with the natural world, whether it’s walking in the woods, sitting near water, or simply noticing the cycles around us. Wholeness, they suggest, is not just an internal process but also a reconnection with what is bigger than ourselves.

Mindy offers generous and practical insights for listeners interested in trying sandtray therapy on their own. She shares how to set up a personal sandtray at home, but also emphasizes that you don’t need sand to engage with these practices. Everyday objects, simple rituals, or creative arrangements can serve as meaningful invitations into symbolic play and self-reflection.

Whether you’re someone who loves the beach and the feel of sand beneath your feet, or you’re simply curious about expressive therapies, this episode offers an accessible entry point. It blends storytelling, personal reflection, and hands-on ideas that invite you to explore your own journey toward wholeness.