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Episode 15 | Family Matters

Episode 15 | Family Matters

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In this episode, Rich and Kevin kick things off with backyard grilling talk and reflections on Black college homecomings before diving deep into the Democratic Party’s internal power struggles. They break down the tension between institutional loyalty and insurgent activism, focusing on David Hogg’s controversial push to primary incumbent Democrats from his seat as DNC Vice Chair. From aging leadership and passing the torch to whether the party is better off with Horace Grant or Dennis Rodman, the fellas go in. It’s a no-holds-barred convo about strategy, legacy, and whether the left is fumbling the bag—again.

📍 00:01 Grills, Gear, and Homecoming Nostalgia

Kevin rocks Spellman gear, Rich reminisces about escorting Tyra Banks, and both reflect on the family reunion vibes of Southern HBCU homecomings.

📍 07:00 Health, Ribs, and Seasoning Secrets

Rich shares his return to grilling post-dialysis and shouts out Kevin’s mom’s legendary dry rub ribs. The conversation swerves into food philosophy—sauce vs. skill.

📍 11:10 Democrats Fumbling the Handoff

The hosts revisit recurring Democratic Party flubs—from Gore to Clinton to Harris—and the growing need for new leadership like Wes Moore and Raphael Warnock.

📍 15:00 David Hogg vs. The Establishment

David Hogg’s $20M plan to primary “safe seat” Democrats gets scrutinized. Kevin questions the strategy, while Rich sees merit in disrupting complacency from within.

📍 30:00 When Progressives Go Too Far?

The fellas debate whether a DNC vice chair should also be leading insurgent challenges. Is it bold, necessary reform—or bad politics in disguise?

🐍 Mamba Mentality Award

This week’s award goes to Senator Dick Durbin, for recognizing the need to step aside and make room for the next generation of leaders. Also getting a nod: Everton Sambah, a young school board member and rising political talent, who exemplifies what readiness for change looks like.

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