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Educator Yarns with Jessica Staines & Bec Burch

Educator Yarns with Jessica Staines & Bec Burch

By: Jessica Staines
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Educator Yarns serves as an informative and insightful discussion about the importance of embedding Aboriginal perspectives in early childhood education and the need for ongoing education and support in alignment with the Early Years Framework 2.0. Jessica Staines, Director of Koori Curriculum is back for season five with new co-host Bec Burch from Bush Kindy Australia. Together the dynamic duo provide practical advice and resources focusing on the intersection of nature play and Aboriginal culture for early childhood educators who are wanting to delve deeper into Aboriginal programs and explore opportunities for rich and meaningful nature play experiences.© 2025 Koori Curriculum. All Rights Reserved
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  • S5 EP15: Creating Belonging: Practical Strategies for Cultural Inclusion in Early Learning
    Jul 13 2025

    In this episode of Educator Yarns, we sit down with Hayley Callaghan, a dedicated cultural officer and early childhood educator at Learning Pathways in Toowoomba.

    Hayley, a proud Kamilaroi woman from Goondiwindi Country, shares her profound journey of cultural rediscovery and how she's transformed her personal exploration into meaningful educational practices.

    From raising over $500 through a Where It Yellow fundraiser to implementing the Aboriginal Eight Ways of Learning pedagogy, Hayley demonstrates how one educator's passion can create ripple effects throughout an entire learning community.

    As a mother of five who grew up disconnected from her cultural roots, Hayley's story resonates deeply as she discusses the challenges and triumphs of fostering cultural understanding in mainstream early childhood settings.

    Her candid insights about building relationships with families, supporting fellow educators, and creating culturally safe environments offer practical wisdom for anyone seeking to authentically embed Aboriginal perspectives in their practice.

    Key Takeaways:

    Personal cultural journey matters - Hayley's experience of rediscovering her own Kamilaroi heritage whilst teaching demonstrates that educators are learners too, and authenticity comes from acknowledging we're all on a continuous learning journey

    Start with connection, not perfection - Building genuine relationships with Indigenous families begins with simple invitations and regular communication, even if uptake is initially low

    The Eight Ways of Learning pedagogy - Hayley is actively working to unpack and implement this Aboriginal pedagogical framework throughout her centre, showing how Indigenous ways of knowing can enhance all children's learning

    Visible cultural presence creates belonging - Strategic use of hallway displays, provocations with natural materials, and welcoming signage helps families know they belong from the moment they enter

    Challenge requires courage - Overcoming the perception that focusing on Aboriginal culture excludes others required direct conversations with staff about ensuring all cultures are valued and represented

    Time constraints are real but manageable - As a working educator with limited cultural officer hours, Hayley emphasises the importance of planning and preparation to maximise cultural learning opportunities

    Community connections amplify impact - Attending cultural events and building relationships with local Indigenous community members like Tiffany provides invaluable support and authentic learning experiences

    Children as cultural leaders - Hayley's seven-year-old son's enthusiasm for cultural dancing and her older son applying to be his school's cultural leader shows how educator passion transfers to the next generation

    Nature as teacher - Getting outside and connecting with Country provides inspiration and authentic contexts for cultural learning that can't be replicated indoors

    Include Aboriginal perspectives regardless of enrolment - Teaching on Aboriginal land means embedding Indigenous perspectives is essential whether you have Aboriginal children in your service

    Hayley's journey reminds us that creating culturally rich early learning environments doesn't require perfection—it requires heart, humility, and a willingness to learn alongside the children and families we serve.

    Access the episode resources here.

    Have a question for Educator Yarns? Call 02 5300 0306 and leave a voicemail with your early childhood query about embedding Aboriginal perspectives, and you might hear your question answered in a future episode.

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    20 mins
  • S5 E14: Reciprocity with Country: Giving Back Through Environmental Advocacy
    Jul 6 2025

    In this episode of Educator Yarns, hosts Jessica Staines from Koori Curriculum and Bec Buch from Bush Kindy Australia dive deep into practical examples of environmental advocacy that early childhood educators can implement with young children.

    From the fascinating world of flying foxes in Tamworth to innovative community partnerships, Jeff and Beck share real-world stories that demonstrate how children as young as three can become active environmental stewards in their communities.

    The conversation explores the critical importance of coexisting harmoniously with native wildlife, challenging common misconceptions about 'pest' animals, and revealing how simple actions like proper wildlife feeding can make significant impacts.

    Through engaging anecdotes about children writing to MPs, creating handmade signs to protect koalas, and participating in regeneration programmes, this episode showcases how environmental education goes beyond mere observation to foster genuine reciprocity with Country.

    Key Takeaways:

    • Learn why feeding birds traditional seed feeders can actually harm them and discover native plant alternatives that provide sustainable food sources for local wildlife
    • Understand how to transform children into active citizens by teaching them to use council reporting apps for environmental issues like rubbish and damaged infrastructure
    • Discover the powerful impact of child-made signage in preventing littering and protecting wildlife, with real examples of success stories from early learning centres
    • Explore the concept of reciprocity with Country - ensuring every bush kindy session includes giving back through rubbish collection or regeneration activities
    • Gain insights into responding appropriately to wildlife after natural disasters, including when to intervene and how to connect with local wildlife carers
    • Learn about innovative sustainability practices like the Boomerang Bags project, where children use sewing machines to create reusable shopping bags from recycled materials
    • Understand the importance of teaching coexistence with native animals rather than viewing them as pests, including practical solutions like possum boxes and frog ponds
    • Discover how to implement mindful procurement practices in early learning centres, considering environmental impact, ethics, and alternatives before purchasing
    • Learn strategies for building children's knowledge about local flora and fauna, including nocturnal visitors and often-misunderstood creatures like bush turkeys and ibises
    • Understand how small actions like choosing eco-friendly detergents can protect local platypus populations and other sensitive wildlife in waterways

    This episode brilliantly demonstrates that environmental advocacy isn't just about teaching children to care for nature - it's about empowering them to take meaningful action that creates real change in their communities.

    By embedding these practices into daily routines and viewing every interaction with the environment through the lens of reciprocity and respect, educators can nurture a generation of environmental custodians who understand their role in caring for Country.

    Whether you're just beginning your journey with bush kindy programmes or looking to deepen your existing practice, the practical strategies and inspiring stories shared by Jeff and Beck will transform how you approach environmental education in your setting.

    Have a question for Educator Yarns? Call 02 5300 0306 and leave a voicemail with your early childhood query about embedding Aboriginal perspectives, and you might hear your question answered in a future episode.

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    32 mins
  • S5 EP13: Creating Cultural Safety: How 50 Educators United on a Reconciliation Journey
    Jun 29 2025

    Join us for an inspiring conversation with Lisa Mavin, the nominated supervisor of Tilly's Play Development Centre in Rutherford, who shares her remarkable 18-year journey in early childhood education and her transformative approach to embedding Aboriginal perspectives in mainstream services.

    As a non-Aboriginal educator married into an Aboriginal family, Lisa offers a unique perspective on creating culturally safe environments and building genuine relationships with First Nations communities.

    In this episode, Lisa reveals how she completely restructured her centre's approach to Aboriginal perspectives by starting with foundational education about history and intergenerational trauma, shares the powerful story of how her husband's willingness to share his experiences catalysed change throughout their 50-educator team, and discusses innovative initiatives like their Cultural Squad programme.

    From transforming a mainstream service into one that's recognised and celebrated within the local Aboriginal community to practical strategies for overcoming common challenges, this conversation is packed with actionable insights for educators at any stage of their reconciliation journey.

    Key Takeaways:

    • Start with history, not activities - Lisa removed all Aboriginal programming, including Acknowledgement of Country, to focus first on educating staff about history and its ongoing impacts on families today
    • Relationships before resources - Building genuine, trusting relationships with Aboriginal families and community members must come before asking for cultural knowledge or guidance
    • Non-Aboriginal people can be powerful advocates - You don't need to be Aboriginal to create meaningful change; Lisa demonstrates how non-Aboriginal educators can lead cultural transformation
    • The importance of understanding intergenerational trauma - Recognising why some Aboriginal families may not immediately trust mainstream services is crucial for creating culturally safe environments
    • Cultural Squads create sustainable change - Establishing a dedicated team of educators and children from diverse backgrounds to lead cultural initiatives ensures ongoing momentum
    • Make accountability visible - Creating a public vision board in the hallway keeps goals transparent and invites family input whilst maintaining focus on commitments
    • Critical reflection time is essential - Providing educators with dedicated off-floor hours for cultural learning and reflection enables deeper understanding and meaningful implementation
    • Size brings unique challenges - Whether you have 3 or 50 educators, each setting faces distinct obstacles in creating unified cultural approaches
    • Eight Ways of Learning requires foundation first - Implementing Aboriginal pedagogies works best after establishing solid historical understanding and cultural awareness
    • Word-of-mouth validates your journey - When Aboriginal health workers and community members recommend your service, you know you're creating genuine cultural safety

    Lisa's journey demonstrates that creating a culturally responsive early childhood service isn't about perfect knowledge or having all the answers—it's about commitment, humility, and the willingness to challenge existing practices.

    Access the episode resources here.

    Have a question for Educator Yarns? Call 02 5300 0306 and leave a voicemail with your early childhood query about embedding Aboriginal perspectives, and you might hear your question answered in a future episode.

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    41 mins

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