E022: We need more hummingbirds in the world with Mark McBride-Wright and Malcolm Staves
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E022: We need more hummingbirds in the world with Mark McBride-Wright and Malcolm Staves
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In this episode of The SAFE Leader Podcast, Mark McBride-Wright sits down with Malcolm Staves, Global Vice President of Health and Safety at L’Oréal, to explore what it means to lead with purpose, care, and conviction. Malcolm shares the story of the hummingbird, a simple but powerful metaphor that has come to define his approach to leadership and culture change. From global safety systems to grassroots impact in schools and communities, Malcolm shows how small actions, taken consistently, can drive transformational change.
The conversation moves beyond corporate health and safety into the emotional core of leadership. Malcolm opens up about mental wellness, prevention over reaction, and the need to break the silence around topics like suicide and stress. With reflections on engineering, empathy, and evolving leadership styles, this episode will leave you inspired to become a hummingbird in your own world, doing what you can, where you are, with what you have.